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Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:19 am
by kjb1
Hi all.  Well, she has finally convinced me to purchase a.........dare I say it......Caravan???? lol. Deposit down yesterday.

Question, just enquired with local towbar fitters and its a 2 week waiting list for appointment.  with prices at:

£475 fitted detachable car specific wiring etc

£375 fixed car specific wiring etc


Im fairly handy so have been thinking, shall I go for it and just order everything and have a go.  Anyone fitted one? any how to's?

thanks

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:53 am
by graemeX5
Hi

If you do a quick search I know there was a tow bar installation for the E53 older version not seen one for the e70 though. And I would guess it would be similar in its fitting.

I am not sure but I think the one they fitted to the e53 was a witter type worth having a look at the how to post

Hth

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:05 am
by graemeX5
Sorry it was a Westfalia kit see link

http://xdrivers.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2357.0.html

Hth

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:51 am
by X5Sport
Have a look on the PF Jones website and you'll be able to download the fitting instructions for the Westfalia versions (and others).  If you're a competent DIY person and have a decent socket set etc then it's not a difficult job.  The Westfalia is the OEM type fitted at the factory.

The dedicated electrics instructions are on the their site too - 7 & 13-pin.

You do need to cut the rear bumper though.

Richard

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:59 am
by sid10
some corners shouldnt be cut ! you might regret it when it passes you on the motorway .
  Which caravan did you go for ?

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:51 am
by kjb1
[quote="sid10"]
some corners shouldnt be cut ! you might regret it when it passes you on the motorway .
  Which caravan did you go for ?
[/quote]

Im not type to cut corners lol! i watched a guy install a tow bar on an e60 of mine and to be fair everything he did I thought I could handle quite easily.

Will have a look on pf jones, and report back :)

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:47 pm
by jagr
I fitted a Witter detachable tow bar with dedicated electrics to my E83 X3. It is not difficult just set aside a day and take your time.
I did mine in around 2.5 hours.

Just get a torque wrench and you should be fine.

I have now fitted tow bars to the following cars:

B5.5 Passat
B6 Passat
Toyota Hilux
Golf Mk6
Audi A8
BMW X3

I am not a mechanic, I am a computer engineer.
I got fed up paying inflated prices and finding the job wasn't done properly. Too many fitters cut corners.

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:05 am
by BullyB
[quote="jagr"]
I fitted a Witter detachable tow bar with dedicated electrics to my E83 X3. It is not difficult just set aside a day and take your time.
I did mine in around 2.5 hours.

Just get a torque wrench and you should be fine.

I have now fitted tow bars to the following cars:

B5.5 Passat
B6 Passat
Toyota Hilux
Golf Mk6
Audi A8
BMW X3

I am not a mechanic, I am a computer engineer.
I got fed up paying inflated prices and finding the job wasn't done properly. Too many fitters cut corners.
[/quote]

Can you advise me on the electrics..?
I'm assuming the E70 will need to have a dedicated electrics kit. With a dedicated kit, you don't need a bypass. Can you confirm this is what you needed when fitting your Witter.

I'm considering the PF Jones TBM114DT or the Witter BM29AQ (just for the fact that they are detachable and cheapest).

I don't see fitting being a problem but got a bit confused when I read "most kits require some expertise in fitting and some applications require a download to activated the towing facility"

Ben

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:35 am
by jagr
[quote="BullyB"]

Can you advise me on the electrics..?
I'm assuming the E70 will need to have a dedicated electrics kit. With a dedicated kit, you don't need a bypass. Can you confirm this is what you needed when fitting your Witter.

I'm considering the PF Jones TBM114DT or the Witter BM29AQ (just for the fact that they are detachable and cheapest).

I don't see fitting being a problem but got a bit confused when I read "most kits require some expertise in fitting and some applications require a download to activated the towing facility"

Ben
[/quote]

I managed to find a used dedicated wiring kit and it was all colour coded.
As our battery is in the boot they are a lot simpler to fit so believe the warning is for cars with the battery under the bonnet.
For instance when I fitted my mates Mk6 golf I had to remove the back seat and the side trim panels (carpet) to run the power cable to the battery and another one to the comfort control unit. That also needed to be activated (luckily I own a vagcom kit so could do it) and VW charge £70-90 depending on dealer.

Mine is an X3 and it did not need any software updates.

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:02 am
by BullyB
thanks.
I think I should be able to do it
:)

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:45 pm
by skyper
I fitted my own towbar to my E70. I bought the westfalia with the dedicated wiring from PF jones. The biggest job is removing the bumper. You will need to get replacement plastic rivets for inner wings.
                                                  Cheers.

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:16 pm
by BullyB
Thanks, will look at that.

Regarding the electrics, were the instructions ok to follow? Is it all done in the boot?
I got a bit confused when the instructions talked about self levelling suspension.

Re: Tow bar fitting, installation

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:36 am
by kjb1
by the way to answer question above, we have a 2006 Compass Omega 524, 4 Berth.  End bathroom.  Its a lovely van in great condition.