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DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 4:40 pm
by Shez1878
How much will it cost me to get this sorted ladies and gents?
Had cover with Warranty Direct and they told me to :rant: off basically.
Thanks!
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 4:46 pm
by X5Sport
Have you tried taking the car on a long journey in manual and keeping the revs up to try to force a regen cycle?
Part number shown on Realoem is 18307812875, plus gaskets etc is $1,800 US.
Probably a case of trying to get an exchange one via someone like Kwik Fit etc if it really is kaput.
Not surprised by WD response as they class it as a wear & tear item.
Not sure where in the country you are, but try ringing
BMWMAN in case it's not really faulty.
Richard
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 4:54 pm
by Shez1878
Thanks Richard. No, not tried that. Have done a couple of motorway runs in Sports mode which seemed to help but message keeps coming back.
If I dont take it on the motorway (which I do 2-3 times a week to be fair) it becomes really sluggish and barely moves from standing position. One trip on the motorway and its fine again but the error keeps coming back.
Drivewise its fine as I'm doing the long drives, I just dont want to do damage to other areas of the car due to dodgy DPF? Or is that just paranoia?
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 5:42 pm
by Shez1878
Thanks for the heads up Richard. I spoke with James at BMW MAN.
He actually laughed when I said it needed replacing!! He said not a chance did it need replacing on the basis car has full BMW Service History and has covered under 100,000 on the clock.
It needs cleaning and forced regen but should be perfectly fine. Only issue is James is based in Derbyshire!
Does anyone know anyone who provides the same service in and around Solihull?
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 5:56 pm
by X5Sport
Quick blat cross country then...... :drive:
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 6:00 pm
by Shez1878
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:49 pm
by graemeX5
Hi this is similar to the Corsa I had with a DPF and it needed regenerating - vauxhall said run the car for 50 miles at 4000 rpm on the diesel Corsa to heat it up sufficiently to burn the residue form it.
They I fact just leave it in car park reving to get red hot.
My mate works for vauxhall and they have lot of probs with Zafira diesels as the DPF is locates a long way from manifold and so doesn't get too hot some even try wrapping the exhaust manifold to DPF to help but not sure how good it works tbh.
Hth
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:06 pm
by X5Sport
Give Raj a PM in case he knows anyone out that way....he has lots of contacts in the trade.
There may well be a way that the car can be 'told' to go into regen mode, probably only be a Dealer or specialist job though.
Richard
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:31 pm
by martin33100
If you are any where near BWChiptune Jason can do a forced regen.
For reference there is a couple of DPF related fault codes and if they are stored on the OBD they will stop a regen regardless how many miles you drive.
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 12:49 am
by Shez1878
Thanks chaps. Will try both Raj and Jason.
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Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 10:35 am
by X5Sport
[quote="martin33100"]
For reference there is a couple of DPF related fault codes and if they are stored on the OBD they will stop a regen regardless how many miles you drive.
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Are they the ones that come from 'failed' regen attempts? I believe the system only tries a few times (12-16?) and then locks the function out. Caused by temp being too cool or car switched off at the wrong moment.....or back pressure error.
Richard
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:52 pm
by martin33100
[quote="X5Sport"]
[quote="martin33100"]
For reference there is a couple of DPF related fault codes and if they are stored on the OBD they will stop a regen regardless how many miles you drive.
[/quote]
Are they the ones that come from 'failed' regen attempts? I believe the system only tries a few times (12-16?) and then locks the function out. Caused by temp being too cool or car switched off at the wrong moment.....or back pressure error.
Richard
[/quote]I will have a look for the codes and list them.
I know one is related to a maximum allowed DPF back pressure reading and this will defiantly stop a regen if this code is active.
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:19 pm
by martin33100
I think its as follows;-
•Fault code 480A is caused by increased backpressure at DPF. Once this fault is logged, the DPF will NOT attempt a regeneration. It will also abort any regen currently on going.
•Fault code 481A is caused by significantly increased backpressure. Once this is logged, the iDrive or OBC will log "Particle Filter! Possible to continue journey..." This will reappear within 10 minutes of engine being switched on, provided 481A is present.
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:56 pm
by X5Sport
That's very useful stuff........I'll know what to look for on mine too
Re: DPF has gone on BMW X5 (E70 2008)
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:21 pm
by Shez1878
[quote="martin33100"]
I think its as follows;-
•Fault code 480A is caused by increased backpressure at DPF. Once this fault is logged, the DPF will NOT attempt a regeneration. It will also abort any regen currently on going.
•Fault code 481A is caused by significantly increased backpressure. Once this is logged, the iDrive or OBC will log "Particle Filter! Possible to continue journey..." This will reappear within 10 minutes of engine being switched on, provided 481A is present.
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Mine definitely sounds like 481A in that case.
In laymen terms, what does this mean?
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