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Help Smoke driving me mad
Help Smoke driving me mad
Ok had the X5 for few weeks now
And upon first start up or if it's been left standing for a few hours it lets of
A white/blue cloud of smoke smells like oil
I have previously blanked hose of the vacuum pipe from EGR valve and smoke stopped a little
The vacuum pipe has now been reconnected when
Connecting it I thought I would see whether EGR was gunky
It was clean however there was some
Moisture inside valve but like a drop of oil
With the EGR vacuum pipe connected whenever I give it hard acceleration I leave behind a cloud of
Smoke
My question is what is at fault
- EGR valve
- EGR cooler
- valve stem seals
And upon first start up or if it's been left standing for a few hours it lets of
A white/blue cloud of smoke smells like oil
I have previously blanked hose of the vacuum pipe from EGR valve and smoke stopped a little
The vacuum pipe has now been reconnected when
Connecting it I thought I would see whether EGR was gunky
It was clean however there was some
Moisture inside valve but like a drop of oil
With the EGR vacuum pipe connected whenever I give it hard acceleration I leave behind a cloud of
Smoke
My question is what is at fault
- EGR valve
- EGR cooler
- valve stem seals
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Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Or injectors...
How well does it start hot or cold??
How well does it start hot or cold??
If things were meant to be easy, then I will soon complicate them....
Please note...
Anything I say is only from my personal experience and knowledge..
I don't assume to know everything, and know there is a lot I don't know..
But then I could be talking bollox.. O:-)
Please note...
Anything I say is only from my personal experience and knowledge..
I don't assume to know everything, and know there is a lot I don't know..
But then I could be talking bollox.. O:-)
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Starts first time everytime
No issues with that so even more confused
Also should turbo make a whistle sound when under load
No issues with that so even more confused
Also should turbo make a whistle sound when under load
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Turbo should make a whistle, yes. Usually barely audible unless the window is open though.
What is your oil consumption like?
Any sign of oil in the inlet structures including turbo, inter cooler, connecting pipes?
Nice clean breather?
What is your oil consumption like?
Any sign of oil in the inlet structures including turbo, inter cooler, connecting pipes?
Nice clean breather?
Never anthropomorphise computers. They hate that.
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
When I changed breather all was ok
Oil consumption when I last checked was level
Only thing did notice was when I removed the big black pipe from EGR valve to check if blocked there was a little moisture/oil there
Checked the remainder of the pipe all seemed ok
The turbo sounds like a dump
Valve when reaches approx 2000rpm but power is not lost
Oil consumption when I last checked was level
Only thing did notice was when I removed the big black pipe from EGR valve to check if blocked there was a little moisture/oil there
Checked the remainder of the pipe all seemed ok
The turbo sounds like a dump
Valve when reaches approx 2000rpm but power is not lost
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Will try get it into
Garage but would ideally like to know what's up
How would I check turbo and inter cooler for oil
Garage but would ideally like to know what's up
How would I check turbo and inter cooler for oil
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Take the air pipes off and have a look. There should be very little or no oil present. The inter cooler is below the coolant radiator.
Richard
Richard
Never anthropomorphise computers. They hate that.
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Yes those pipes seemed all ok
This leaves me to being even more confused
I know a little puff of white/blue smoke is normally
But I am getting puff everytime I accelerate hard also
It all seems to clear once engine is warm
This leaves me to being even more confused
I know a little puff of white/blue smoke is normally
But I am getting puff everytime I accelerate hard also
It all seems to clear once engine is warm
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Sounds like similar issues I've seen on golf Tdi's.
Usually causes are either leaking seals on the boost/intercooler pipes or the egr valve itself sometimes sticking.
A little something you could try if all seals are ok on the pipes is to disconnect the main inlet pipe to the egr and spray Wynns intake/carb cleaner in and talking about the whole can. Then reconnect and rev the nuts off it to decoke it all. Makes a difference on the vag tdi engines.
Usually causes are either leaking seals on the boost/intercooler pipes or the egr valve itself sometimes sticking.
A little something you could try if all seals are ok on the pipes is to disconnect the main inlet pipe to the egr and spray Wynns intake/carb cleaner in and talking about the whole can. Then reconnect and rev the nuts off it to decoke it all. Makes a difference on the vag tdi engines.
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Raj I'll give that a go
Would that be the same as if I were to just change the EGR valve?
Another think leaking seals on pipe is different to leaking seals on turbo right? And are they easy fix
Would that be the same as if I were to just change the EGR valve?
Another think leaking seals on pipe is different to leaking seals on turbo right? And are they easy fix
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
[quote="kamb"]
Raj I'll give that a go
Would that be the same as if I were to just change the EGR valve?
Another think leaking seals on pipe is different to leaking seals on turbo right? And are they easy fix
[/quote]
Yes it is kind of like replacing it depending upon what the issues is with the egr.
Not really looked at the pipe work on the X for the boost pipes etc.
Here's the link for doing the tdi 150pd engine if it helps:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Cn6947-z48s
Raj I'll give that a go
Would that be the same as if I were to just change the EGR valve?
Another think leaking seals on pipe is different to leaking seals on turbo right? And are they easy fix
[/quote]
Yes it is kind of like replacing it depending upon what the issues is with the egr.
Not really looked at the pipe work on the X for the boost pipes etc.
Here's the link for doing the tdi 150pd engine if it helps:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Cn6947-z48s
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
right took X5 into garage today
mechanic was baffled as to what could be causing the issue
he checked everything and said all ok
what he did do was pour some injector cleaner into my tank and told me to monitor smoke as he honestly couldnt find any other issues on the car
mechanic was baffled as to what could be causing the issue
he checked everything and said all ok
what he did do was pour some injector cleaner into my tank and told me to monitor smoke as he honestly couldnt find any other issues on the car
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Can you tell us what type of smoke is coming out of top engine as you stated on Xoutpost and where I have also replied to you,with further suggestions?
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/ ... e-mad.html
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/ ... e-mad.html
2003 model E53-3.0D.55k, Full extras,mods ,including "facelift" grills and modded DEPO headlights
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
I have the same problem with mine. Only had the car a few months but didn't notice it till after I had serviced it and blanked off the egr valve at the same time! so either I just didn't notice it before the service (I'm sure I would have done) or its something to do with what I have done. So in my eyes it's either the oil in the engine (I used castrol as recommended) the breather filter or the blanking of the egr valve.
2004 X5 3.0d
Re: Help Smoke driving me mad
Hi
Powers1
looks as though the smoke was due to the air intake housing not being connected been told it's some sort of back draft
i have tested again and no smoke so fingers crossed it was just that
Powers1
looks as though the smoke was due to the air intake housing not being connected been told it's some sort of back draft
i have tested again and no smoke so fingers crossed it was just that