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Hi, today I have put a deposit (refundable) on a X5 to hold it until I can view later this week.

I would welcome any thoughts on whether there is anything obvious missing from the specification - full details of the spec below. This is mainly going to be driven by my wife and she was insistent on having the sd model - likes a bit of speed. Is this version of the engine any more problematic?
How do these engines wear mileage - the one we are looking at is 1 owner and has 120k with full BMWSH. Would like lower miles but that puts them outside our budget.

The other options on this one that particularly like are colour combination and the comfort seats with bum warmers (even in the back for our son!), sports package with sport settings on suspension and nav system with reverse camera.

What should I be looking or listening for when we go and test it? From the photos it looks pretty clean, inside and outside.

Am I correct in thinking, although it doesn't specifically state media package, the options include everything that would be in the media package?

What sort of price would be fair for this vehicle?

Thanks

Full spec:


Type code  FF02
Type  X5 3.0SD (EUR)
E series  E70 ()
Series  X
Type  GEFZG
Steering  RL
Doors  5
Engine  M57Y
Displacement  3.00
Power  210
Drive  ALLR
Transmission  AUT
Colour  BLACK SAPPHIRE METALLIC (475)
Upholstery  LEDER NEVADA/BEIGE (LUB4)
Prod.date  2007-12-20

Close  Options 

Code

Description (interface)

Description (EPC)

S1CAA  SELEKTION COP RELEVANTER FAHRZEUGE  Selection of COP-relevant vehicles
S1CBA  CO2 UMFANG  CO2 equipment
S220A  NIVEAUREGULIERUNG  Self-levelling suspension
S226A  SPORTLICHE FAHRWERKSABSTIMMUNG  Sports suspension settings
S230A  EU SPEZIFISCHE ZUSATZUMFAENGE  Extra package, EU-speciifc
S255A  SPORT-LEDERLENKRAD  Sports leather steering wheel
S2PAA  RADSCHRAUBENSICHERUNG  Wheel bolt locks
S2RZA  LM RAEDER STERNSPEICHE 213 M. MISCH.  BMW LA wheel, star spoke 213
S302A  ALARMANLAGE  Alarm system
P330A  SPORTPAKET  Sports package
S386A  DACHRELING  Roof railing
S3AGA  RUECKFAHRKAMERA  Reversing camera
S423A  FUSSMATTEN IN VELOURS  Floor mats velours
S428A  WARNDREIECK  Warning triangle and first aid kit
S430A  INNEN-/AUSSENSPIEGEL AUT.ABBLENDEND  Interior/outside mirror with auto dip


Code


Description (interface)


Description (EPC)

S431A  INNENSPIEGEL,AUTOMATISCH ABBLENDEND  Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S441A  RAUCHERPAKET  Smoker package
S456A  KOMFORTSITZE ELEKTRISCH VERSTELLBAR  Comfort seat with memory
S488A  LORDOSENSTUETZE FAHRER/BEIFAHRER  Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S494A  SITZHEIZUNG FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER  Seat heating driver/passenger
S496A  SITZHEIZUNG FUER FONDSITZE  Seat heating, rear
S4ABA  EDELHOLZAUSFUEHRUNG NUSSBAUM WURZEL  Fine wood trim burr walnut
S502A  SCHEINWERFER-WASCHANLAGE  Headlight cleaning system
S508A  PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC)  Park Distance Control (PDC)
S521A  REGENSENSOR  Rain sensor
S522A  XENON-LICHT  Xenon Light
S534A  KLIMAAUTOMATIK  Automatic air conditioning
S544A  GESCHWINDIGKEITSREGEL. MIT BREMSF.  Cruise control with brake function
S563A  LICHTPAKET  Light package
S5ACA  FERNLICHTASSISTENT  High-beam assistant


Code


Description (interface)


Description (EPC)

S609A  NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL  Navigation system Professional
S612A  BMW ASSIST  BMW Assist
S616A  BMW ONLINE  BMW Online
S633A  HANDY VORB. BUSINESS/BLUETOOTH-SCH.  Preparation, mobile phone, Business
S672A  CD WECHSLER 6-FACH  CD changer for 6 CDs
S698A  AREA-CODE 2  Area-Code 2 for DVD
S760A  INDIVIDUAL HOCHGLANZ SHADOW LINE  High gloss shadow line
S775A  INDIVIDUAL DACHHIMMEL ANTHRAZIT  Headlining anthracite
L812A  ENGLAND/IRLAND AUSFUEHRUNG  National version England / Ireland
S840A  HOCHGESCHWINDIGKEITSABSTIMMUNG  High speed synchronisation
S863A  SERVICE KONTAKT-FLYER EUROPA  Dealer List Europe
S877A  UEBERKREUZBEDIENUNG ENTFALL  Omission of non-combined operation
S880A  ENGLISCH / BORDLITERATUR  On-board literature, English
S8S2A  KODIERUNG ALARMSIGNAL  Coding, alarm signal
S8SMA  FAHRGESTELLNUMMER,V.AUSSEN SICHTBAR  Car ident. number visible from outside


Code


Description (interface)


Description (EPC)

S8SPA  COP STEUERUNG  Control unit COP
S925A  VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET  Dispatch protection pack

Close  Standard equipment 

Code

Description (interface)

Description (EPC)

S853A  SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH  Language version, English

It's got a reasonable spec, just make sure you test everything and that it all works!

I'd say that you're probably looking at 8-10k for something of that age and spec, it's got over average mileage so you may be able to play with the figure a bit.

[quote="Caesium"]
It's got a reasonable spec, just make sure you test everything and that it all works!

I'd say that you're probably looking at 8-10k for something of that age and spec, it's got over average mileage so you may be able to play with the figure a bit.
[/quote]8-10k for an E70.... Really?

For a seven year old one with one hundred and twenty thousand miles, I'd say so.

Its what Glass' guide shows as its CAP

[quote="Caesium"]
It's got a reasonable spec, just make sure you test everything and that it all works!

I'd say that you're probably looking at 8-10k for something of that age and spec, it's got over average mileage so you may be able to play with the figure a bit.
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Please tell me where you can buy one for that amount!!
I have done a lot of searching and the cheapest E70 I have come across would be around 13K and that is usually mileage closer to 200k and normally ex police. so will usually be lacking the refinements and often the sat nav I-drive screens and normally the lower powered engine. This one is the sd.
Even at auction I've not seen that cheap.

[quote="AMck"]
[quote="Caesium"]
It's got a reasonable spec, just make sure you test everything and that it all works!

I'd say that you're probably looking at 8-10k for something of that age and spec, it's got over average mileage so you may be able to play with the figure a bit.
[/quote]

Please tell me where you can buy one for that amount!!
I have done a lot of searching and the cheapest E70 I have come across would be around 13K and that is usually mileage closer to 200k and normally ex police. so will usually be lacking the refinements and often the sat nav I-drive screens and normally the lower powered engine. This one is the sd.
Even at auction I've not seen that cheap.
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Must agree with you on this one 13K+

Not saying I could buy one for that, but what the Glass guide states as a rough guide.

Obviously depends on the condition, a 120k car could still be immaculate if looked after.

On the other hand it could be a real dog, as the average mileage is 12k per year it's over mileage by 3 years so that will detract from its value a bit.

How much are you paying for it?

**Just had a look on AutoTrader and it shows a 2009 model with 200k for £12,495 which would make my quote about right for the trade in price, which is what I'd barter from**

I didn't realise joe public could now access the CAP valuations - but it seems you can So these are the figures I get from them.  This is for the standard 3.0sd SE without any allowance made for the options, which I think are about £7,000 worth. I do realise the value of options is significantly reduced when related to 2nd hand values, but would, I'm sure add a few hundred to price?

Average dealer retail  £16,400 - £17,950   
Private sale price  £15,950 - £16,650 
Trade in clean  £12,750 - £13,650 
Trade in average  £11,950 - £12,750 
Trade in below £11,050 - £11,750 

I know the car you are referring to for 12,495. It is an ex police vehicle with cloth interior and standard seats, although with some other options like xenons and adaptive drive.

have to say i usually value cars low but all e70s as you say are 13k+ i would never have an expolice car either,
i would say 13-15k would be what it would be priced at

Ex-Police vehicles will have had some of the best running gear maintenance on them, usually no expense spared, but the interior will have been in hard use.  Forces that have them will have got their monies worth and they would have been mostly used three shifts a day, every day.

Richard

When we bought our E70 3.0d two month ago a 57 plate with 130K, 1 owner, full BMW history and all the right spec was still going for about 14-15K.
There is a 2009 ex authorities E70 on the auto trader at the moment for 12.5K but it does have 200k on it and a very very low level of spec.

[quote="martin33100"]
When we bought our E70 3.0d two month ago a 57 plate with 130K, 1 owner, full BMW history and all the right spec was still going for about 14-15K.
There is a 2009 ex authorities E70 on the auto trader at the moment for 12.5K but it does have 200k on it and a very very low level of spec.
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Yeah! I think we have all seen it....http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201310229401055/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/bmw/postcode/rh41qa/page/1/maximum-age/up_to_7_years_old/radius/1500/model/x5/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew?logcode=p

Would you be brave to buy it? stupid to buy it or actually quite clever to buy this potential bargain?

Hope they told their insurance company once they had it remapped!

BLUE, EX AUTHORITIES WELL MAINTAINED BMW X5 DIESEL XDRIVE MODEL, REMAPPED, VERY BIG SERVICE PRINTOUT, NO EXPENCE SPARED, FULLY COLOUR CODED, CASH SALE PRICE NO OFFERs, Upgrades - Sports suspension, Adaptive drive, Solid paint, Xenon headlights, Comfort access system, All season tyres, Last serviced on 12/08/2013, Full dealership history, Good bodywork, Interior - Clean Condition, Tyre condition Good, Standard Features - 18" light alloy wheels - style 209, 3 spoke multi-function leather steering wheel, Automatic air conditioning, BMW professional twin tuner radio with single CD player and MP3 CD playback facility, Black roof rails, DSC-Dynamic Stability Control, Dynamic Traction Control - DTC, Electric front/rear windows with anti-trap, Headlight washer jets, Interior lights pack - X5, Park distance control, Part electric adjustable seats, Smokers pack, Thatcham category 1 remote alarm/immobiliser. 200k MOTORWAY MILEs, CHEAPEST [09] BMW X5 XDRIVE IN COUNTRY, NO OFFERS, OWNED BY THE POLICE, NOW FULLY COLOUR CODED IN BLUE, LOOKS BLACK, PRIVACY GLASS, NO EXPENCE SPARED, NEW TYRES, NEW BRAKE DISKS AND SUSPENSION BUSHES, SOLID DRIVE., FINANCE ARRANGED,INTERNET PRICE-5 STAR WARRANTY/NATIONWIDE DELIVERY-EXPORT AVAILABLE, CARDS ACCEPTED, £12,495 p/x welcome

Our 6 year old X5 now has 133k on it and its still on the original dpf, that tells me its spent most of its life going up and down the motorway at running temperature.
The engine is probably in much better condition than a 6 year old  X5 with only 30k on it that just goes to the shops and back.