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3.0d Glow plug controller replaced - observations

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3.0d Glow plug controller replaced - observations

Post by Chrispy » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:25 pm

Got the glow plug control module replaced the other day and thought I'd post up a few observations / thoughts re this as it may be valuable to others.

Ever since I got the car, it was never happy on cold starts.  Even on "normal" temp starts it was never as smooth as I'd like and the car was waaaaay more thirsty than I'd have liked when cold. 

So when the car was in BMW for the cripplingly overpriced parking brake module replacement they spotted a fault code with the glow plug control module and wanted £350 to replace it.  Pfft I thought after I'd just given them my left kidney for the parking brake, so I got it sorted myself.  Found the part code on RealOEM and ordered a replacement Beru unit from eBay for £80, which arrived promptly.
Then booked the car in with my local independent to have it fitted after the wife insisted I wouldn't have time to do it myself.....

Upon removal of the engine cover and scuttle tray etc they found additional coolant pipes in the way of the control module that they weren't expecting.  We're talking narrow ones about 8mm in diameter and they said they'd not seen this on the many 3.0d's they'd handled prior.  As such the intake plenum needed to come off too in order to get in, rather than using alien fingers like normal.  Anyway, all good after all this was sorted and I went to collect the car.

First thing I noted was the car did a regen.  But we're talking a serious regen here - white/ grey haze from the exhaust under acceleration visible in the rear view mirror (which stopped about a mile later and hasn't happened since), and bonkers heat on the tailpipes with the exhaust clanking from the heat when I got home and turned the ignition off.  It's never done that before. 

Now all cold starts are met with a proper "vrooom" when the engine starts, and instant smooth running, whereas before it would sort of cough into life and feel a bit lumpy, almost misfiring when in minus temps.  The engine is also smoother to drive before reaching normal operating temps and I dare say has improved mpg - you can actually see there is less throttle needed to maintain cruising speed on the motorway than before.  Hoping this isn't my imagination but I'd say this has taken me from late 20's into early 30's mpg wise.  I need to brim it to really do the math.

How much of this improved running is down to active glow plugs at the right times vs a proper regen taking place I'm not sure, but it's made it all much better.

So the question is, clearly the glow plug controller is involved in the regen process and heavily by the looks of this.  This clearly wasn't working with a faulty module, so:

1. How long would a faulty glow plug controller need to be in place for it to kill your DPF?
2. If the 2 are so closely linked, then getting these things checked and replaced should be high on many peoples agendas, yes?

Thoughts and comments welcome. :)

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Re: 3.0d Glow plug controller replaced - observations

Post by Marrow » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:09 pm

Interesting sound like I need to do mine. Do you have a link to the module you got on fleebay ? Thanks

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Re: 3.0d Glow plug controller replaced - observations

Post by Chrispy » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:14 pm

I got this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOR-5-SERIES ... 2749.l2649

But it's worth going to RealOEM, putting in your VIN number and getting the part number for the one you need first which is what I did to ensure I got the right one.  Nothing worse than getting the intake manifold off to find you have the wrong one......

Do you have a fault code logged for yours and/ or is it lumpy on cold starts?  Should be as smooth as silk at all times (mine is now).
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Re: 3.0d Glow plug controller replaced - observations

Post by Marrow » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:50 pm

[quote="Chrispy"]
I got this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOR-5-SERIES ... 2749.l2649

But it's worth going to RealOEM, putting in your VIN number and getting the part number for the one you need first which is what I did to ensure I got the right one.  Nothing worse than getting the intake manifold off to find you have the wrong one......

Do you have a fault code logged for yours and/ or is it lumpy on cold starts?  Should be as smooth as silk at all times (mine is now).
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Not had any codes but really struggles to start when below about 2/3 c and runs lumpy for about 10 seconds then fine.

Now the temperature has come up it fine !

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Re: 3.0d Glow plug controller replaced - observations

Post by X5Sport » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:51 pm

Definitely points at either the glowplugs and/or controller.  Often faulty plugs will take out the controller.
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Re: 3.0d Glow plug controller replaced - observations

Post by Pat Mustard » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:29 pm

Word of warning when replacing the glow plug control unit. Friend had his E70 with dealer last week for glow plug replacement and new control unit. On his way home he had the infamous " increased emissions " message with engine management light on. Next day back to dealer who cleared the fault. 1 hour later the whole lot was back again. Back to dealer who once again cleared the fault and adjusted the activation figure from 0 to + 40 . 10 more miles and lights on again. Had my suspicions so took a look at the new glow plug control unit and hey presto here was the problem yet once again. This is the 3rd time i have seen this. What happens is when the old unit is removed and new one fitted one of the vacuum lines gets trapped and crushed under the corner of the new unit. Difficult to see when youre doing the job . New piece of vacuum hose and problem solved. Also readapted  the settings from +40 back to zero .Simple things can cause havoc.

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