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settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:00 am
by Smeeagain
Do all X5's with an automatic gearbox require the driver to have his foot on the brake pedal to be able to start the car?
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Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:08 am
by Don Coffey
Not only all X5s but I'm sure all automatic car require this as a safety feature.......even my electric car
Don
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:41 am
by 535dboy
I'm not sure all autos, for example I can start the Navara with no foot on brake
I can't remember back to my 535
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:44 am
by Greydog
If my 4.6 is in Park I can start it without my foot on the brake. Don't tell me I have a fault!!!
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:53 am
by 535dboy
[quote="Greydog"]
If my 4.6 is in Park I can start it without my foot on the brake. Don't tell me I have a fault!!!
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No, I think it is more recent nanny state thing
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:12 am
by Smeeagain
[quote="Greydog"]
If my 4.6 is in Park I can start it without my foot on the brake. Don't tell me I have a fault!!!
[/quote]
Well thats what started the debate.
Does an X5 auto (lets not complicate the question with other brands at this stage) that will start without foot on the brake have a fault? And if so is that then a gearbox fault or a starter fault?
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:14 am
by shadrack
My rrs had to have foot on brake, my ml63 dont need it, my x5 cant remember
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:21 am
by Denis O
I believe they will all start without your foot on the brake.
The safety feature is that you cannot move the gear lever out of P without your foot on the the brake. At least that's how mine works anyway.
My auto Wrangler is the same.
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:25 am
by 535dboy
[quote="Smeeagain"]
[quote="Greydog"]
If my 4.6 is in Park I can start it without my foot on the brake. Don't tell me I have a fault!!!
[/quote]
Well thats what started the debate.
Does an X5 auto (lets not complicate the question with other brands at this stage) that will start without foot on the brake have a fault? And if so is that then a gearbox fault or a starter fault?
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My reference to other brands was more of an age thing
The Navara is an 06 plate and therefore before nanny state really kicked in
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:40 am
by X5Sport
X6 won't as it's a push button start. X5 would as long as it was in 'P' or 'N' from memory.
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:59 am
by Smeeagain
[quote="Denis O"]
I believe they will all start without your foot on the brake.
The safety feature is that you cannot move the gear lever out of P without your foot on the the brake. At least that's how mine works anyway.
My auto Wrangler is the same.
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Ah ok that makes sense
Thanks
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:10 pm
by gchristofi
Yeah, it's new nanny state BS. If I want to start my car in D through the open drivers window and run myself over ..... That is my human right!!

Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:09 pm
by Raj
As Dennis has stated the X5 will start as long as it's in P. I've started mine numerous times while stood next to it and no pedal pressed.
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:15 pm
by Greydog
OK other makes, my Mercedes (keyless go 61 plate) needs brake depressed, wife's Subaru (06 plate) same as the BMW as long as its in park it will start. One of my sons has a 61 plate Toyota Hilux manual and that you have to have the clutch depressed before it will start. The other son has a Nissan GTR that thing has more buttons than the star ship Enterprise so haven't asked
So it seems 535 Boy is on the money, if you want pre- nanny state don't buy anything newer than about an 08 plate is my guess.
Re: settle a dispute please
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:46 pm
by pvr
[quote="Raj"]
As Dennis has stated the X5 will start as long as it's in P. I've started mine numerous times while stood next to it and no pedal pressed.
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When will you allow your wife to do that herself?

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