Help with New Purchase - Newbie looking for support Please

[hmpmarketing]

Hi all,

Registered a few days ago and have been browsing the site extensively to get to know a little more about the X5. Loved the site and community and hope to be along you guys

So, I have decided to purchase an X5 due to two important things:

1 - Reliability. I am a proud owner of a 2008 320i Convertible (you can see my “self build” here on the e90 forum: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=847502). Love my car to death (Wife does not think so ) Car has never given me any issues and it drives great.

2 - We are expecting! Yea, we are having our first baby (due in April) and I do need more room for all the things that come along when you carrying a family around! So the X5 has always been our first option on the list. Wife also loves it when she sees one and when you make your missus happy, you get her on your side for some more mods

I have set my eyes on two at the moment, they are from the same dealer and similar mileage except for a few features:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/b ... ars-twt001

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/b ... ars-twt001

Does the price seems high for the year, mileage and features? Also this dealer offers AA warranty, anyone familiar with it? Has anyone purchased from this particular dealer before or any experience with it?

Really looking to get all the features I can,  7 seater  and registered in 2012 > are what Im after and budget is around 35k.

Im not a great negotiator either, so any tips when approaching this dealer are welcome, what should I say over the phone, etc

Although I love cars, I am not an expert, so any help is really  appreciated specially buying such an expensive car!

Thanks guys!

[535dboy]

Wow , that was some transformation of the 3 series. Raj needs to take note when he pops up here

I've been out of the X5 market for a while now but they do seem a bit toppy in price

At that age and mileage I would have thought they would be roughly half the original cost, surely they aren't £70k spec are they!?

[Lee4.8is]

Welcome to the site  agree that's a stunning transformation with the 3 series  the experts will be along soon to help you with the search for the X5, hope you get a nice one.

[X5Sport]

Those prices are too high.  Unless there is a sudden surge in demand for 40d E70s that the market can't meet then those prices need to come down to below £30k. 

That supplier is trying to get top book and unless there is something really special about them, they just aren't worth that much.  More so given so much of each spec is standard, not an option.  If they had Comfort seats, Nappa/Exclusive/individual leather etc then maybe, but not otherwise as they only have Dakota leather.

As 535dboy says, neither are £70k otr as built spec.

[hmpmarketing]

Thanks for the compliments regarding the 3er

wow, bit surprised about the comments regarding the price. Was expecting someone to say they were high however Im not sure how high 

Found another one (no pics yet) with similar mileage / specs however 1k over:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/b ... ars-twt001

Anyone would risk a quote on these, how much would they be worth by your estimates? How should I approach negotiation if price seems bit eye watering ?  :blink:

Hopefully some more experts can chimei in

Thanks for the feedback so far

[535dboy]

[quote="X5Sport"]
Those prices are too high.  Unless there is a sudden surge in demand for 40d E70s that the market can't meet then those prices need to come down to below £30k. 

That supplier is trying to get top book and unless there is something really special about them, they just aren't worth that much.  More so given so much of each spec is standard, not an option.  If they had Comfort seats, Nappa/Exclusive/individual leather etc then maybe, but not otherwise as they only have Dakota leather.

As 535dboy says, neither are £70k otr as built spec.
[/quote]

Dealers probably think that because winter is here/coming, they can charge a premium for a 4x4 !!!

I agree at low £30s

Some of those options (HUD/rear DVDs ) etc are expensive options at new but not worth it at second hand so nice to have but not adding value

[hmpmarketing]

Thanks for the feedback more is welcome!

Just called the Sales Rep from the last dealer I posted and got a quick response "6 people are waiting to see it, please confirm if you want, blah blah " he also emailed me pics of it (quite dirty still) and getting it prepped for dealer pictures . He said that if I was interested to place a deposit on it so that it would go off market and if I came to see the car and didn't like it, would return deposit.

[535dboy]

[quote="hmpmarketing"]
Thanks for the feedback more is welcome!

Just called the Sales Rep from the last dealer I posted and got a quick response "6 people are waiting to see it, please confirm if you want, blah blah " he also emailed me pics of it (quite dirty still) and getting it prepped for dealer pictures . He said that if I was interested to place a deposit on it so that it would go off market and if I came to see the car and didn't like it, would return deposit.
[/quote]

Don't be bullied by the dealer!!

I've just seen a car I want to add to the fleet (see other thread) and I've told him I'm not paying asking price!!

He said he would be open to "sensible negotiation"

[hmpmarketing]

[quote="535dboy"]
[quote="hmpmarketing"]
Thanks for the feedback more is welcome!

Just called the Sales Rep from the last dealer I posted and got a quick response "6 people are waiting to see it, please confirm if you want, blah blah " he also emailed me pics of it (quite dirty still) and getting it prepped for dealer pictures . He said that if I was interested to place a deposit on it so that it would go off market and if I came to see the car and didn't like it, would return deposit.
[/quote]

Don't be bullied by the dealer!!

I've just seen a car I want to add to the fleet (see other thread) and I've told him I'm not paying asking price!!

He said he would be open to "sensible negotiation"
[/quote]

I will read it now

Did you come personally to see the car before giving the " I'm not paying asking price" answer ?

Perhaps I should follow your tactics haha

[535dboy]

[quote="hmpmarketing"]
[quote="535dboy"]
[quote="hmpmarketing"]
Thanks for the feedback more is welcome!

Just called the Sales Rep from the last dealer I posted and got a quick response "6 people are waiting to see it, please confirm if you want, blah blah " he also emailed me pics of it (quite dirty still) and getting it prepped for dealer pictures . He said that if I was interested to place a deposit on it so that it would go off market and if I came to see the car and didn't like it, would return deposit.
[/quote]

Don't be bullied by the dealer!!

I've just seen a car I want to add to the fleet (see other thread) and I've told him I'm not paying asking price!!

He said he would be open to "sensible negotiation"
[/quote]

I will read it now

Did you come personally to see the car before giving the " I'm not paying asking price" answer ?

Perhaps I should follow your tactics haha
[/quote]

Oh it's not that interesting don't rush!!!

I haven't had the opportunity to negotiate on cars for a long time because I buy new and cars that haven't even been released when I order or in demand cars

I got £750 off the porsche only because I told him that I didn't want to pay £1,500 for special electric seats when all the Mrs wanted was the dipping mirror when reversing option which you could only get with those seats!

[hmpmarketing]

Lucky you Wish I didn't have to go through this! Seems the worst part of buying a car is actually the negotiation! Last time I bought (the 3 series) I had 2 friends coming over to negotiate. Guy though I had bodyguards  ) In the end managed to get 800 quid off the price, seller even showed me receipts where he purchased the car from (auction), 400 quid was his profit. Friends negotiated the whole deal, but then again it was not 30k car

So I would say at this moment I should try to haggle down to 30k, more help is appreciated guys!

[shadrack]

i really would only buy a bmw approved used at them prices

[535dboy]

[quote="shadrack"]
i really would only buy a bmw approved used at them prices
[/quote]

I think this is the main point

[hmpmarketing]

[quote="shadrack"]
i really would only buy a bmw approved used at them prices
[/quote]

Would you guys not trust such a dealer? If can haggle down the price, wouldn't that be ideal?

From what I have read, lots of people have issues with AUC when it comes to claiming anything under warranty

[hmpmarketing]

Hope somebody can provide me some more feedback?

Here is the printout of the last car I got a response to from dealer:

Model description: X5 xDrive40d
Market: Europa
Type: ZW62
E-Code: E70 (MUE)
Chassis: Sports Activity Vehicle
Steering: rechts
Doors: 5
Engine: N57D30T0 - 3,00l (225kW)
Drive: Allrad
Transmission: automatisch
Body Color: Black Sapphire Metallic (475)
Upholstery: Leder Nevada/cx Oyster (LUCX)
Production date: 13.08.2011
Assembled in: Spartanburg

Code Sonderausstattung Optional Equipment
S1CAA
Selektion COP relevanter Fahrzeuge Selection of COP relevant vehicles
S1CBA
CO2 Umfang CO2 package
S220A
Niveauregulierung Self-levelling suspension
S226A
Sportliche Fahrwerksabstimmung Sports suspension settings
S230A
Zusatzumfang EU-spezifisch Extra package, EU-specific
S2NYA
BMW LM Rad M Doppelspeiche 333 BMW LA wheel, M Double Spoke 333
S2PAA
Radschraubensicherung Lug bolt retainer
S302A
Alarmanlage Alarm system
P337A
M Sportpaket M Sports package
S3AHA
Rückfahrkamera und Top View Backup camera and Top View
S3MCA
Individual Dachreling Hochgl Shadow Line Indiv. roof rail high-gloss Shadow Line
S423A
Fussmatten Velours Floor mats, velours
S428A
Warndreieck und Verbandstasche Warning triangle and first aid kit
S430A
Innen-/Aussensp. mit Abblendautomatik Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S431A
Innenspiegel automatisch abblendend Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S441A
Raucherpaket Smoker package
S456A
Komfortsitz mit Memory Comfort seat with memory
S488A
Lordosenstütze Fahrer u. Beifahrer Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S494A
Sitzheizung Fahrer/Beifahrer Seat heating driver/passenger
S4AZA
Edelholzausführung Bambusmaser dunkel Fine-wood trim bamboo grain dark
S4NCA
Zusatzheizung/-lüftung Additional heating/ventilation
S4UBA
3. Sitzreihe 3rd seat row
S502A
Scheinwerferreinigungsanlage Headlight cleaning system
S508A
Park Distance Control (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC)
S521A
Regensensor Rain sensor
S522A
Xenon-Licht Xenon Light
S524A
Adaptives Kurvenlicht Adaptive Headlights
S534A
Klimaautomatik Automatic air conditioning
S544A
Geschwindigkeitsregelung mit Bremsfunkt. Cruise control with brake function
S563A
Lichtpaket Light package
S575A
Zusätzliche 12V-Steckdosen Supplementary 12V sockets
S5ACA
Fernlichtassistent High-beam assistant
S5DAA
Deaktivierung Airbag Beifahrer Passenger airbag deactivation
S609A
Navigationssystem Professional Navigation system Professional
S610A
Head-Up Display Head-up display
S612A
BMW Assist BMW Assist
S615A
Erweiterte BMW Online Information Expanded BMW Online Information
S616A
BMW Online BMW Online
S620A
Spracheingabe Voice control
S633A
Vorbereitung Handy Business Preparation, mobile phone, Business
S654A
DAB-Tuner Radio Bavaria C III
S676A
HiFi Lautsprechersystem HiFi speaker system
S694A
Vorbereitung BMW 6 CD Wechsler Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer
S698A
Area-Code 2 für DVD Area-Code 2 for DVD
S6AAA
BMW TeleServices BMW TeleServices
S6ABA
Steuerung Teleservices Control for Teleservices
S6FLA
USB-/Audio-Schnittstelle USB/Audio interface
S6VCA
Steuerung Combox Control for Combox
S710A
M Lederlenkrad M leather steering wheel
S760A
Hochglanz Shadow-Line High gloss shadow line
S761A
Individual Sonnenschutzverglasung Individual sunshade glazing
S775A
Dachhimmel anthrazit Headlining anthracite
S7M5A
M Exterieurumfänge M Exterior equipment
L812A
Länderausführung England / Irland NATIONAL VERSION GREAT BRITAIN
S840A
Hochgeschwindigkeitsabstimmung High speed synchronisation
S877A
Entfall Überkreuzbedienung Delete cross-pattern operation
S880A
Bordliteratur englisch On-board vehicle literature English
S8KAA
Ölwartungsinterval 30.000km/24Monate Oil-maintenance interval - 24 months/30,000 km
S8S2A
Codierung Alarmsignal Coding alarm signal
S8SCA
Freischaltung Telematik länderspez. Telematics access request,country-spec.
S8SMA
Fahrgestellnummer von aussen sichtbar Car ident. number visible from outside
S8TGA
Diebstahlsicherung Thiefproofing device
S8TLA
Tagfahrlicht Front und Hech aktiv
S8TNA
Tagfahrlicht über Lichtmenü
S925A
Versandschutzpaket Transport protection package

Asking price 35K