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114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
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114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
My E70 is in for 125k km service (80k miles) and the loaner is a new 114d with only 3k miles on the clock. The average fuel mileage so far is a little less than 40mpg. I was certainly expecting better! Our Polo averages around 50mpg.
Now, if the 114d had some power, I could understand it. But it has noticeably less grunt than our Polo. There is no use taking the revs up either.
Something is wrong with this picture. I am very ready to pick up my E70 this afternoon.
Now, if the 114d had some power, I could understand it. But it has noticeably less grunt than our Polo. There is no use taking the revs up either.
Something is wrong with this picture. I am very ready to pick up my E70 this afternoon.
Reno: Alsace, France = only 30 minutes to Germany der Vaterland!
2011 E70 40d well kitted from the factory, RaceChip 375hp
2005 E53 3.0d, manual gearbox, sport susp, RaceChip 278hp
2011 E70 40d well kitted from the factory, RaceChip 375hp
2005 E53 3.0d, manual gearbox, sport susp, RaceChip 278hp
Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
At 3k its still needing run in & as a loaner its probably been screamed in every gear by previous drivers. Try resetting trip comp.
I just bought a new Scenic Xmod 1.5dci as a 2nd car with combined at 69mpg but only getting 50 on dash but brim to brim has been 5-6mpg higher. Now done 1600 miles & Renault advise at least 4.5k as run in (on mileage), we'll see :noexpression:
I just bought a new Scenic Xmod 1.5dci as a 2nd car with combined at 69mpg but only getting 50 on dash but brim to brim has been 5-6mpg higher. Now done 1600 miles & Renault advise at least 4.5k as run in (on mileage), we'll see :noexpression:
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Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
I have had several new company cars and vans over the years and would say you don't start to get the best MPG out of an engine till its past 20/30,000 miles.
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Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
[quote="Horizon"]
I have had several new company cars and vans over the years and would say you don't start to get the best MPG out of an engine till its past 20/30,000 miles.
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I have had several new company cars and vans over the years and would say you don't start to get the best MPG out of an engine till its past 20/30,000 miles.
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Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
My Audi is supposed to give a decent MPG, and we only get 32 out of it. Book is about 56 or so.
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Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
I can buy that it's not fully broken in. But it's years newer than our Polo, and it has all that Efficient Dynamics stop/start shiit on it. I took the Polo out to fill it with fuel later today and confirmed that it has more power.
But then yea the BMW will be safer in a wreck and it has iDrive and yeah if I had the spare quid I would trade the Polo in ... but on a 118d not a 114d. Better yet, wait for the 3cyl model to come out.
But then yea the BMW will be safer in a wreck and it has iDrive and yeah if I had the spare quid I would trade the Polo in ... but on a 118d not a 114d. Better yet, wait for the 3cyl model to come out.
Reno: Alsace, France = only 30 minutes to Germany der Vaterland!
2011 E70 40d well kitted from the factory, RaceChip 375hp
2005 E53 3.0d, manual gearbox, sport susp, RaceChip 278hp
2011 E70 40d well kitted from the factory, RaceChip 375hp
2005 E53 3.0d, manual gearbox, sport susp, RaceChip 278hp
Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
The 1 Series is Golf size & weight so the tiny Polo will give much better mpg even when the 114 loosens up.
Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
well it depends how you drove it really
There is a different style reqd
There is a different style reqd
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
My son has a 116d (59 plate ) it has the 2.0 engine as does the 118 and 120, Jason said they are the same engine in different levels of tune/ mapping. My lads116d is £30 PA to tax, my Golf 2.0 TDI is better on fuel and is £125 to tax, also the Golf is a better drive.
2011 Kia Sorento KX3 2.2D 60 Plate Auto in black ( mine )
BMW E83 X3. 3.0d M Sport, 2008 in black ( now gone )
BMW E93 330i Convertible Msport 2007. ( Now sold )
VW Golf 2.0 TDI 140 GT 2010 ( now sold )
Now Sold 55 plate, X5, 3.0 D Sport. Silv
BMW E83 X3. 3.0d M Sport, 2008 in black ( now gone )
BMW E93 330i Convertible Msport 2007. ( Now sold )
VW Golf 2.0 TDI 140 GT 2010 ( now sold )
Now Sold 55 plate, X5, 3.0 D Sport. Silv
Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
[quote="Horizon"]
My son has a 116d (59 plate ) it has the 2.0 engine as does the 118 and 120, Jason said they are the same engine in different levels of tune/ mapping. My lads116d is £30 PA to tax, my Golf 2.0 TDI is better on fuel and is £125 to tax, also the Golf is a better drive.
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Really
Always found the rear drive 1er much more fun than the FWD VAG stuff
My son has a 116d (59 plate ) it has the 2.0 engine as does the 118 and 120, Jason said they are the same engine in different levels of tune/ mapping. My lads116d is £30 PA to tax, my Golf 2.0 TDI is better on fuel and is £125 to tax, also the Golf is a better drive.
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Really
Always found the rear drive 1er much more fun than the FWD VAG stuff
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
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Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
[quote="Finglonga"]
The 1 Series is Golf size & weight so the tiny Polo will give much better mpg even when the 114 loosens up.
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From my 6'6" pov (point of view) the 114d was about as big inside as our Polo, except that I had more legroom. But the outside does seem to be between Golf and Polo. The last two Polo generations are built on the Golf platform, which is a good thing imho.
The 1 Series is Golf size & weight so the tiny Polo will give much better mpg even when the 114 loosens up.
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From my 6'6" pov (point of view) the 114d was about as big inside as our Polo, except that I had more legroom. But the outside does seem to be between Golf and Polo. The last two Polo generations are built on the Golf platform, which is a good thing imho.
Reno: Alsace, France = only 30 minutes to Germany der Vaterland!
2011 E70 40d well kitted from the factory, RaceChip 375hp
2005 E53 3.0d, manual gearbox, sport susp, RaceChip 278hp
2011 E70 40d well kitted from the factory, RaceChip 375hp
2005 E53 3.0d, manual gearbox, sport susp, RaceChip 278hp
Re: 114d loaner - disappointing fuel economy
[quote="535dboy"]
[quote="Horizon"]
My son has a 116d (59 plate ) it has the 2.0 engine as does the 118 and 120, Jason said they are the same engine in different levels of tune/ mapping. My lads116d is £30 PA to tax, my Golf 2.0 TDI is better on fuel and is £125 to tax, also the Golf is a better drive.
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Really
Always found the rear drive 1er much more fun than the FWD VAG stuff
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I agree with you there, that the rear wheel drive configuration usually gives a better driving feel. But when manufacturers are trying to squeeze MPG out of their cars the DRYVING DYNAMICS ARE LOST. The 120d is a different beast than the lesser tuned 116/114. At 170 bhp the 1 series is a fun drive.
I respect your comments as you have had the experience of driving many top end cars. I'm only commenting on my restricted experience with cars that I have driven.
I fancied a 130 at one time as I owned an E60 530i before the X5 (E53 ) and I thought that was a fantastic smooth and well proven engine.
I've always had firms cars and vans from being 17, so all of my cars have been a weekend runaround, so have had the problem of justifying spending big bucks on my cars. :'(
[quote="Horizon"]
My son has a 116d (59 plate ) it has the 2.0 engine as does the 118 and 120, Jason said they are the same engine in different levels of tune/ mapping. My lads116d is £30 PA to tax, my Golf 2.0 TDI is better on fuel and is £125 to tax, also the Golf is a better drive.
[/quote]
Really
Always found the rear drive 1er much more fun than the FWD VAG stuff
[/quote]
I agree with you there, that the rear wheel drive configuration usually gives a better driving feel. But when manufacturers are trying to squeeze MPG out of their cars the DRYVING DYNAMICS ARE LOST. The 120d is a different beast than the lesser tuned 116/114. At 170 bhp the 1 series is a fun drive.
I respect your comments as you have had the experience of driving many top end cars. I'm only commenting on my restricted experience with cars that I have driven.
I fancied a 130 at one time as I owned an E60 530i before the X5 (E53 ) and I thought that was a fantastic smooth and well proven engine.
I've always had firms cars and vans from being 17, so all of my cars have been a weekend runaround, so have had the problem of justifying spending big bucks on my cars. :'(
2011 Kia Sorento KX3 2.2D 60 Plate Auto in black ( mine )
BMW E83 X3. 3.0d M Sport, 2008 in black ( now gone )
BMW E93 330i Convertible Msport 2007. ( Now sold )
VW Golf 2.0 TDI 140 GT 2010 ( now sold )
Now Sold 55 plate, X5, 3.0 D Sport. Silv
BMW E83 X3. 3.0d M Sport, 2008 in black ( now gone )
BMW E93 330i Convertible Msport 2007. ( Now sold )
VW Golf 2.0 TDI 140 GT 2010 ( now sold )
Now Sold 55 plate, X5, 3.0 D Sport. Silv