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x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise - UPDATED

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:31 am
by greg1980
Hi,

Please watch the video and let me know what you think it might be. It only happens when when the engine is cold and it lasts for about 5 to 8min, then is quiet . We did try to change oil to 0w40 but it didn't help. BMW hasn't lost power, goes like it should. Doesn't sound as bad in reality like on the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhvQ0k_fqpY&feature=youtu.be

PS. smoke at the begging is from cigarette.

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:47 am
by Greydog
Before buying my first X5 and before joining here I did a lot of reading on the internet to see what if any issues there were with them.
This is one of the sites I found it may help in working out what the problem is, unfortunately my experience is when your talking "engine" there are no cheap fixes.

Have a look here  http://www.meeknet.co.uk/E31/BMW_M60_M6 ... Noises.htm

Fingers crossed

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:18 pm
by kkx5
The sound is coming from hydraulic lifters. No 9:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=11&fg=25
More then likely oil valve is not holding fluid for long time hence tapping on cold start, no 8:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=11&fg=15
Expensive to repair.
Try good oil, not cheap castrol, mobile1 etc. Go for Amsoil, Red line 5w-30. It will improve it ...

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:17 am
by greg1980
I dont think thats the case, as they would quite down within seconds after start up.

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:17 am
by greg1980
I will get to the bottom of that and I will keep you updated.

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:37 am
by kkx5
Thats the bottom of it. I did it on mine but if you know it better... Let us know.

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:22 am
by SMOKEY
doesn't sound great does it!

To try located the source of the sound, get a long screwdriver (as in 15") and put it against various places on the valve train cover. Press the handle to your ear. It's like a mechanic's stethoscope.  Report back.

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:25 pm
by greg1980
It sounds worse on youtube than in reality.

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:48 pm
by Riggie
When I had a hydraulic tappet gone, it sounded just like that.

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:40 pm
by jason1872
Sounds like vanos grumble you get on e39 m5''s

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:14 pm
by centurion
hi ys,

being all new to x5 and the 4.8's... how much oil goes in them? Don't have the owners handbook, sorry.

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:11 pm
by kkx5

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:11 pm
by greg1980
x5 in the garage now. We went with stethoscope and the sound seems to come from underneath or around oil filler cap. So far looks like the cam chain related, will have new tensioners put in tomorrow and will see if that improves.

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:48 am
by kkx5
I assume you removing engine? How do you want to change it on left bank?  Good luck but it seems like you or garage knows nothing about n62 engine :(

Re: x5 4.8is Ticking/rattling noise

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:49 am
by greg1980
Time will tell. They might be able to do it without removing the engine. We have notice the tight space there. I rather start with simple things. I have really good mechanics, a people who I trust and I have no doubt in their qualification.