Is it time to sell the petrol or diesel car and go electric

[jaynana]

Perhaps because
a) the barometer is on renewables and gas is a natural resource;
b) it still produces Co2?


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[Glen]

Iv'e just bought my wife a heavy oil Beemer but I am a Neanderthal  :-[

[X5Sport]

My wife thinks the same of me regardless..........but then she drives an oil burner anyway 

[Bmwobsessed]

The real question that we need to ask is when are the governments going to allow the mass production of hydrogen powered vehicles?  The next question should then be when are we going to get fission powered transport?

The technology for both has been around since the 50’s............

Now where’s my tinfoil hat

[jaynana]

I would have thought theres nothing to be ‘allowed’ as such, the tech has to mature, prove itself safe, become practical and cost effective to refil and use.. ?


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[Bmwobsessed]

They would never let us have hydrogen powered cars how could they ever tax water it falls from the sky.......

[A Blair]

I kept the Nissan Leaf,
Nissan knocked more than a couple of grand off the residual value.
I am not sure of the tactics here but is is value for money as a shopper / second and town car.
So,
Reading a few car magazines I see the top selling new car in Norway is the new Nissan Leaf. Check it out. This years Swiss Motor Show has revealed more manufacturers releasing EV cars. I believe there is no hybrid X3 because it is going to become all electric.
Here on the continent Hybrids are receiving a mixed reception. The BMX X5 hybrid, once the battery is flat is expensive to run on a long journey. A 2.0 turbo car hauling an empty battery and motor around is X5 V8 territory in the real world for mpg. The bloke opposite me has just bought the 3.0 diesel Jaguar F pace. Apparently it is still cheaper here in Belgium to buy and run a modern Euro 6 emission car. I thought good for him. I found the ride firmer than my X5 sport, it is very nice but not for me.

I still feel an electric car is not an advancement over the petrol engine. It is certainly different I have to agree. I agree it moves the emissions to a central point.
As mentioned here the infrastructure is not in place.
I cannot see how the battery once fully used (Car to house to what?) is going to be disposed off. End of life has not been thought out.
I read that new technology is being developed in a lab on battery density, however I know scaling it up for mass production is a difficult task.
So I think keep cleaning the ICE up with progress is a better solution at the moment.

[jaynana]

[quote="A Blair"]

Here on the continent Hybrids are receiving a mixed reception. The BMX X5 hybrid, once the battery is flat is expensive to run on a long journey. A 2.0 turbo car hauling an empty battery and motor around is X5 V8 territory in the real world for mpg.

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Interesting to read feedback on the hybrids. Don't they also charge on the run like the Toyota Prius etc., and provide power beyond the initial charge?



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[X5Sport]

The alternators don’t have enough output to charge the battery and run the car.

[jaynana]

Not the alternators I would have thought the electric motors would produce enough power... Just like the Priuses of the world.

Can't be that the cheapest Jap cars got this right and not the Germans[emoji848]


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[Nictrix]

Why are they not fitting solar panels to these cars to charge the batteries?
They could make the whole roof a solar panel and it would help to charge the battery and possibly extend how far you could travel.

[IanP]

[quote="Nictrix"]
Why are they not fitting solar panels to these cars to charge the batteries?
They could make the whole roof a solar panel and it would help to charge the battery and possibly extend how far you could travel.
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Is this not the case with some Tesla?

[Horizon]

[quote="jaynana"]
Not the alternators I would have thought the electric motors would produce enough power... Just like the Priuses of the world.

Can't be that the cheapest Jap cars got this right and not the Germans[emoji848]e


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The motors act as a generator under braking and deceleration, putting some charge  back in the battery I believe