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Re: cant get breaks to work on rear of x5

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:48 pm
by ozzyhufc
Cheers sanj i have told them no way to new master cylinder as cost and they said its got to be that, and i said how can it be, it was fine before, they worked ace, they can't think of anythink else i will take that link to them tommorrow and see what they say, plus im trying to send anther bloke from a garage around the corner , as most car have abs and dsc these days so it should be the same on each car.i hope jason can help over the phone maybe as he has sorted many with this problem.

Re: cant get breaks to work on rear of x5

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:59 pm
by Raj
I'd seriously consider getting on the phone to Jason to speed things up. As for the master cylinder, if the have screwed the seals up due to constant bleeding then that is down to them also.

Jason had to pressurise the system too. Let me link my thread as you will see pics.

Re: cant get breaks to work on rear of x5

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:05 pm
by Raj
HERE YOU GO

About half way down are pics of Jason bleeding the brakes.

Re: cant get breaks to work on rear of x5

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:39 pm
by Horizon
Must be a 24 HR garage !!!!
Have you seen the other post that this member has run today regarding .... can I get a dump valve fitted to my X5 turbo diesel !!!!
Sounds like a wind up to me !!!!!!

http://xdrivers.co.uk/forum/https://xdr ... ic.php?t=9

cant get breaks to work on rear of x5

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:46 am
by jason@bwchiptune
Ok first they will need to pressurize the system using a brake bleeder like liquid levers brake bleeder kit (no cheap to buy)Image
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Then BMW diagnostics (we use Autologic )Image
Then will need to active the brake systems pressure pump then bleed the longest pipe 1st and follow the on screen instructions Image
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I suggest when they have done this to redo it again

If the master cylinder drys out they will damage the seals and will need a new master cylinder fitted

If you have tried to ring I've been tuning on the dyno for the last few days as been snowed under with Remaps

If you can't get through please text as I can't pick the phone up when dyno testing cars as It too dangerous

cant get breaks to work on rear of x5

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:07 am
by jason@bwchiptune
Got a call at 8.22 am this morning
Was good to speak to you
Sounded like you work at the garage?

They have not got the correct tools to bleed your car correctly
They have let the brake pipes run dry
They are trying the suck the brake fluid out of the lines using one of the tool that makes a depression when connected to a air line and a snap on scanner

You will never bleed out this car with these tools he is using
You need the correct tools to bleed these cars and it must be done correctly

Look for a company in wales that has a Autologic and the correct pressure bleeder

If you can't find anyone get the car put on a tow truck and send it down to me and I will do it here

Re: cant get breaks to work on rear of x5

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:45 pm
by ozzyhufc
Hi everyone thanks for the help, i have had my X5 back from garage , they did replace the master brake cylinder aswel and yes they got rear brakes to work, so some how the cylinder went when they replaced the rear brake lines as to cost, the bill was £500 which was for m.o.t,replace both rear brake pipes,replace master brake cylinder with brand new one then bleed all brakes plus re do m.o.t. so what do you think to the bill???????????????????????????

Re: cant get breaks to work on rear of x5

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:49 pm
by Raj
Think you'll find they screwed up the master cylinder constantly bleeding the system the way they were. I'd have made them cover the cost of the master cylinder tbh.

Re: cant get breaks to work on rear of x5

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:57 pm
by shadrack
I got a non oem master cylinder from motor factors for £50!  Brake pipe costs next to nothing for enough to do the whole car, had this trouble when doing my brake pipes, let air into master abs unit, took to a local garage who said they could do it (had no brakes) they got abit of a pedal didn't dare charge me much, took 50miles to a trusted indy told him to fit the master cylinder because I had it and that meant I'd done all new brake lines and flexis, as well as new fluid and master cylinder, he had it about an hour, got them to work perfect and charged £50 for bleed and master cylinder inc fluid (it was his last slot on a friday night and I paid cash though so maybe he went directly to the pub lol)