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Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by 535dboy » Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:05 pm

[quote="Sustanon250"]
I've just had mine mapped and I'd say it's pretty rapid , I'm sure it'd shock a lot of high performance cars !

Still crave a bit more power though , makes me wonder if I should have bought the x5m or if there's even more power available from mapping ?
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torque and gearbox are your limiting factors
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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by X5Sport » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:16 pm

700Nm is indeed the torque limit on the gearbox - unless you fit the Rolls-Royce variant which can cope with 1,000Nm!  You can put all the power you like into it, but if you over-torque it then things break expensively.

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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by Sustanon250 » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:41 pm

[quote="X5Sport"]
700Nm is indeed the torque limit on the gearbox - unless you fit the Rolls-Royce variant which can cope with 1,000Nm!  You can put all the power you like into it, but if you over-torque it then things break expensively.

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I'm hearing you  :P

Really don't want to be breaking an 8sp box , it'll be insanely expensive .

I'm convinced there's a LOT more power to be had from the engine / turbos and with some quality mapping , more power could be released  higher up in the rev range whilst still keeping torque within gearbox limits .
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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by X5Sport » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:44 pm

Try the 'triple hairdryer' M50d then......they do go rather well. :drive:
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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by Sustanon250 » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:49 pm

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Try the 'triple hairdryer' M50d then......they do go rather well. :drive:
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Already been doing the research , they make 430ish with a map , absolutely astonishing from a 3ltr diesel that'll do 40mpg in a 2.2t car !!!!

Ps sorry to the OP for hijacking your thread !
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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by sgrg » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:19 pm

[quote="Sustanon250"]
[quote="X5Sport"]
Try the 'triple hairdryer' M50d then......they do go rather well. :drive:
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Already been doing the research , they make 430ish with a map , absolutely astonishing from a 3ltr diesel that'll do 40mpg in a 2.2t car !!!!

Ps sorry to the OP for hijacking your thread !
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no worries. My mind is pretty made up now. Would be nice to have all the extra gadget but no really that fussed. Provided they have fixed everything they said they will I will be picking up the car on saturday. Really looking forward to it.

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Post by sgrg » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:28 am

Anyone have a full specification for 2011 X5s? Want to know what is standard and what is optional.

Thanks

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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by Dr C » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:19 am

[quote="Sustanon250"]
[quote="X5Sport"]
Try the 'triple hairdryer' M50d then......they do go rather well. :drive:
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Already been doing the research , they make 430ish with a map , absolutely astonishing from a 3ltr diesel that'll do 40mpg in a 2.2t car !!!!

Ps sorry to the OP for hijacking your thread !
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40 mpg??? I think the BMW blurb states 42 mpg from the F15 M50d, my missus who drives like an undertaker (when she's not kerbing the wheels), struggles to get above 30 in ours. I don't know how BMW arrive at those figures.
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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by X5Sport » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:41 pm

40+mpg is a laboratory figure.  They just cannot be achieved on the road and the 'official' tests have long since been shown to be valueless but will make Governments miss their carbon targets if the truth were actually published.  Car manufacturers have to reduce their average overall carbon footprints across their car products so they aren't keen on accurate tests either.  Take 25% off it for 'real world' driving.

There is a whole new global test system being planned which should be more accurate but as ever different companies, countries and ministers with vested interests are all arguing about it!

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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by Sustanon250 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:26 pm

If I've seen 38mpg in my e70 then I'm pretty sure I could get 40mpg from the newer , cleaner model.

Might take a nice stretch of road and a steady 65mph though .
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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by sgrg » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:01 am

So finally picked it up today. Very pleased with the car.

First order of the day, get it valeted professionally to get rid of the cigarette smells which the stealer promised they would sort out. I can still smell it. Thinking of contacting these guys as they are quite local to me:
http://www.clean-image.co.uk/odour-kill.htm

If anyone has any recommendation that would be great.

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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by hertfordshire1 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:02 am

Change the pollen filter too if the dealer hasn't.

Hope you can shift the smell, nothing worse than a smelly motor!

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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by kenniff » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:24 am

... other than war and famine of course.
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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by 535dboy » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:39 am

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... other than war and famine of course.
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Oh I don't know?!
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Re: Buying an E70 xDrive40D: advise needed

Post by hertfordshire1 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:20 pm

I don't often suffer from wars or famines in my cars!

:-[

There was a strict no food policy that lasted all of 1 hour once!

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