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Post by roland » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:44 pm

Hello Fenj 66,
many thanks for your answer.
Ijust got from BMW the manual to install parking heater as second mount.
Oddly, when you read the prerequisites they say : check if equipped with SA 534 IHKA climate control (I translate from French)
They don't specify a part number and my car has this spec, even if the actual climate control part number is not for parking heater.
I suspect that when you enable parking control with the BMW scanner you change the software of the climate control and "upgrade" it's part number.
It would be useful to compare the software of a climate control with parking heater originally enabled (easely downloaded with BMW scanner V1.4.0).

From my documentation you just need to connect the black wire behind the climate control to connector X610 (26 pins plug), then install an extra water valve under the hood (which could be replace by a resistor or a normal car relay as specify in the previous post).
My actual problem might be a bit different since before enabling Aux heater with the BMW scanner I already noticed in cold weather that my Webasto was shutting down after a minute or two.
after the first scan it displayed fault : A/C -> 32/44 - additional heater.

I think that I will buy a second hand Webasto from an E39 and make some test.
Also disabling AUX heater with the BMW scanner and give it a try sounds a good idea.

Roland

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Post by dirtymonkey29 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:28 pm

will get around to trying 12v to pin 1 soon. Phoning my car to turn the heating is a great gadget and the work ive been doing during the cold spell it would have been extra handy as i would have been out of remote range and not havinbg a set finish time for work i could have just rang 30 mins or so before i know im due to finish work.

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Post by roland » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:54 pm

Hello again,
so, problem fixed; I swapped the electronic PCB with one of a second hand Webasto from an E39 (5 série).
It started without trouble; and the airco started to blow warm air in the car.
I didn't do anyting at the climate control (like connecting the black wire and adding a resistor or relay)
I don't know if the previous problem I got is from a faulty PCB or that the E39 Webasto doesn't need a signal from the climate control of the X5 (or doesn't care); but it seems to be one solution.
Now I did read on some post that there are guys in Finland who could fix faulty PCBs.
If someone knows how to contact them I'm willing to have my X5 PCB fixed (as long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg ;-)
At least w'll know if it's an EEPROM software or a real hardware problem.

the car : X5 3.0D from end 2005

hope it might help some.
Roland.

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Post by nujon » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:06 pm

[quote=""roland""]Hello again,
so, problem fixed; I swapped the electronic PCB with one of a second hand Webasto from an E39 (5 série).
It started without trouble; and the airco started to blow warm air in the car.
I didn't do anyting at the climate control (like connecting the black wire and adding a resistor or relay)
I don't know if the previous problem I got is from a faulty PCB or that the E39 Webasto doesn't need a signal from the climate control of the X5 (or doesn't care); but it seems to be one solution.
Now I did read on some post that there are guys in Finland who could fix faulty PCBs.
If someone knows how to contact them I'm willing to have my X5 PCB fixed (as long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg ;-)
At least w'll know if it's an EEPROM software or a real hardware problem.

the car : X5 3.0D from end 2005

hope it might help some.
Roland.[/quote]

Roland

Are you saying that your timed/manual start is now working from the OBD in addition to the Telestart (setting flaps to screen and starting the vent fan) - without having to fit any replacement / additional parts ? (e.g. different H&V panel, additional water valve)

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Post by evoblue » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:09 pm

I have used the scanner 1.4 to enable the parking heating. I now have the option on the OBC for heat on and vent on. I have used the Heat on via the OBC timer and the push button on the display. I have not changed anything else on the car. The system fires up and runs for 30 min and clears the windscreen. The interior warm up not to much but it was more for the clearing of the windscreen. The BMW dealer said that it was not possible to get this option on the OBC due to the cars that came with the option originally came with other pipes. I do not know what pipes he ment. It has also been suggested that they deactivated it due to the combustion gas being released in a confinned space eg a garage and gassing the occupent.

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Post by fenj66 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:15 pm

[quote=""evoblue""]I have used the scanner 1.4 to enable the parking heating. I now have the option on the OBC for heat on and vent on. I have used the Heat on via the OBC timer and the push button on the display. I have not changed anything else on the car. The system fires up and runs for 30 min and clears the windscreen. The interior warm up not to much but it was more for the clearing of the windscreen. The BMW dealer said that it was not possible to get this option on the OBC due to the cars that came with the option originally came with other pipes. I do not know what pipes he ment. It has also been suggested that they deactivated it due to the combustion gas being released in a confinned space eg a garage and gassing the occupent.[/quote]

hi there, what year is your car?
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Post by roland » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:23 pm

Hello nujon,
yes, I confirm that.
I also found on a Rover site someone who fix the defective electronic of webasto, usually 2 or 3 resistors.
I'm gonna send him the defective PCB or try to resold new resistors myself.
it seems to be a common defect with Webasto.
If you search the net and Rover sites, his pseudo is FrenchMike.

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Post by nujon » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:38 am

APPEAL - has any 3.0d owner on this website (or any other) got the park heater working from the OBD purely by enabling it with the scanner

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Post by x555 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:24 am

[quote=""nujon""]APPEAL - has any 3.0d owner on this website (or any other) got the park heater working from the OBD purely by enabling it with the scanner[/quote]
Yes
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Post by fenj66 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:53 am

[quote=""nujon""]APPEAL - has any 3.0d owner on this website (or any other) got the park heater working from the OBD purely by enabling it with the scanner[/quote]

No.
didnt work for me. either it messed up my heater circuit board or the board was on its way out anyway. now fixed but only works from remote start.
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Post by evoblue » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:41 am

My car is a 05 plate. I used the scanner 1.4 to enable through the obc. The car webasto Heater starts the interior fans start red light on dash next to the controls flash. When I get in the car and it's still going I can press the heat off button and it stops again. I have also not set a timer and went out to the car turned ignition to position 2 ( I think ) and press the heat on button, the heater fires up the fans start and then remove keys and walk away for a while the windscreen clears. Hope that helps.

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Post by Waka » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:32 pm

[quote=""nujon""]APPEAL - has any 3.0d owner on this website (or any other) got the park heater working from the OBD purely by enabling it with the scanner[/quote]

Yes - on 54 plate 3.0D sport :driving:
Curr. - Silverstone II F85
Prev. - E70 4.0D M Sport
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Post by o5moto5 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:22 am

[quote=""evoblue""]My car is a 05 plate. I used the scanner 1.4 to enable through the obc. The car webasto Heater starts the interior fans start red light on dash next to the controls flash. When I get in the car and it's still going I can press the heat off button and it stops again. I have also not set a timer and went out to the car turned ignition to position 2 ( I think ) and press the heat on button, the heater fires up the fans start and then remove keys and walk away for a while the windscreen clears. Hope that helps.[/quote]

I question that you are pressing the aux heater button. You are most probably using vent option wich only starts the interior fans and blows fresh air.

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Post by evoblue » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:57 pm

I question that you are pressing the aux heater button. You are most probably using vent option wich only starts the interior fans and blows fresh air.[/quote]

My car does not have the TV/Sat nav screen. I now have the display as in the manual. The option says heat on. I can press this button and the heater starts. Then the fans start in the car. I can also set the timer 1 or 2 to get the heater to start and clear the windscreen. Before I only have the vent option which was the fans on blowing ambient temp air around.

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Post by fenj66 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:58 pm

just as an update on my own webasto problems as mentioned in this thread.
i have just acquired a second hand webasto circuit board from a pre facelift X5d. after using my scanner to clear away any fault codes in the system, the heater now runs ok from the pre selected timer option and the heat on button from the OBC and also from my own remote control (ie, after about five minutes the interior fan comes on to blow warm air at screen). i couldnt test if it comes on automatically at temps below 5*C as its too warm at the moment. so i am pretty happy now! :) it would point, as mentioned earlier, that the facelifts arn't compatible with enabling aux heat, unless parts are changed/upgraded. but a cheap s/h circuit board from an earlier X or E39 webasto might sort the problem out. hope this helps.. ;)
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