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				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:10 pm
				by mccabema
				Yes I was thinking this but having not replaced an injector before (I've done coil packs which are easy), I don't want to risk causing damage by not knowing what I'm doing !
I've searched high and low for a tutorial but nothing...which leads me to believe that replacing injectors is serious business best left to those that have the experience.
Correct me if I am wrong ..please.
			 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:58 pm
				by ChewingBacca
				I'm not much of a mechanic so I couldn't possibly advise.
Before I made any decision though I would run the car with 
diesel cleaner added.
I'm thinking the work you have had done may have disturbed deposits in the fuel system? Anyway for £6 it's probably worth a try.
 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:34 pm
				by squeaky2
				[quote=""mccabema""]Hi.
I ran a smooth running controller test and it threw up the following:
Cylinder 1 -0,3
Cylinder 5 -1,4
Cylinder 3 -0,7
Cylinder 6 -1
Cylinder 2 -1,8
Cylinder 4 5.2
So the value in cylinder 4 seems way off !
Any suggestions of where to go next? Would such an extreme value suggest something other than just replacing the injector?
Wiring issue?[/quote]
Cylinder 4's injector value is well off. It would cause the smooth running fault and the rough running at idol.
I had the same problem with my old 330d.  Came back from a 500mile trip through france and was running like a dog.   Swapped out the injector and all was fine. 
I had done a how to on the old site of how to change the injectors so i will have to look and see what i have here still.   Its not the most difficult job in the world just time consuming and takes some patience.
I have just found a powerpoint i did so will try and convert it to pics and post it up here.
			 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:11 pm
				by x555
				[quote=""mccabema""]Yes I was thinking this but having not replaced an injector before (I've done coil packs which are easy), I don't want to risk causing damage by not knowing what I'm doing !
I've searched high and low for a tutorial but nothing...which leads me to believe that replacing injectors is serious business best left to those that have the experience.
Correct me if I am wrong ..please.[/quote]
This thread may help (visually) it's not a how too as such but there are some great pics of how Nige did his manifold includind removing the injectors 
 viewtopic.php?f=21&t=700
        viewtopic.php?f=21&t=700 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:19 pm
				by squeaky2
				Once youve actually got to the injectors and got them loosened up it shouldnt be too difficult to swap them around.
			 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:42 am
				by gareth82
				[quote=""mccabema""]Yes I was thinking this but having not replaced an injector before (I've done coil packs which are easy), I don't want to risk causing damage by not knowing what I'm doing !
I've searched high and low for a tutorial but nothing...which leads me to believe that replacing injectors is serious business best left to those that have the experience.
Correct me if I am wrong ..please.[/quote]
Please keep us updated on your approach to fix this.  I have the same problem but suspect its 2 faulty injectors.  I have ordered INPA and will test injectors when it arrives.  Have you sourced injectors yet?
thanks
			 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:34 pm
				by x555
				BLOTWAS has a good contact for the injectors..... diesel jones i think!
			 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:53 am
				by mccabema
				Thanks for all the help guys.
I sourced an injector off ebay.de but think I am going to leave the task of putting it in to someone who knows what they are doing (unless that DIY surfaces  

 ).
I'll keep you posted.
 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:58 am
				by mccabema
				[quote=""squeaky2""]
Cylinder 4's injector value is well off. It would cause the smooth running fault and the rough running at idol.
I had the same problem with my old 330d.  Came back from a 500mile trip through france and was running like a dog.   Swapped out the injector and all was fine. 
I had done a how to on the old site of how to change the injectors so i will have to look and see what i have here still.   Its not the most difficult job in the world just time consuming and takes some patience.
I have just found a powerpoint i did so will try and convert it to pics and post it up here.[/quote]
Seems there are quite a few people looking for an injector DIY-so if you do happen to find the time to make that post....
Sure would be appreciated.
			 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:34 pm
				by gareth82
				Hi.
The INPA kit arrived a few days ago so I got it installed the software and run the smooth running controller test.
Cylinder 1 - 4.9
Cylinder 5 - 1.8
Cylinder 3 - 1
Cylinder 6 - 2.4
Cylinder 2 + 6.6
Cylinder 4 - 3.4
The software states 
OK: -5.0 to 4.0
Critical: Rate 4.0
My question is injector for cylinder 2 must be faulty but should I be replace injector for cylinder 1 aswell since its right on the limit
Thanks
			 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:22 pm
				by gareth82
				[quote=""x555""]BLOTWAS has a good contact for the injectors..... diesel jones i think![/quote]
Thanks for the info on this, 
Cheapest I could find, just ordered two injectors from them
thanks
			 
			
					
				Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:29 pm
				by squeaky2
				Long day at work today. I will see what I can cobble together in the next couple of days as to a how too.
			 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:36 am
				by mccabema
				Sure would appreciate it squeaky2  

 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:00 pm
				by gareth82
				injectors arrived this morning.  I have the car booked in with a BMW indy on Tuesday morning to get injectors replaced in banks 1 and 2, fingers crossed this fixes it, will report back as might be of use to someone else.
Indy couldnt get over how cheap the injectors where (after I get surcharge refunded it will be £105 per injector including delivery), lets home I dont get stun on fitting as I havent used this mechanic before lol
			 
			
					
				Re: Smooth running controller??? Help
				Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:52 pm
				by gareth82
				2 injectors fitted today, no more rough idle and is driving so so smooth.