[quote="Lee4.8is"]
[quote="535dboy"]
[quote="Lee4.8is"]
[quote="Imy"]
[quote="shadrack"]
[quote="Drpellypo"]
Had the unfortunate displeasure of driving one of these to Leeds last week and what an absolute awful, dull car it is! This was a full bells and whistles, top of the range model costing something in the region of £23,000. My word what you could have for that money that is so so much better. Noisy, slow, bland, ugly, rubbish equipment... Why do people buy these??
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because the description you give of the car is the same as the drivers, noisy, slow,bland, ugly, rubbish.....
just buy a 2 year old x3 for that money!!
and no i hate the gtr, and the money they are might get a marginally slower to 60 by a few hundredths of a second car but it will get some very nice cars rs4, m3 etc etc
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The point of a Gt-r is that it acts as a base car to tune. Sure you can buy an M3n rs4 etc etc but getting any extra hp out of them would be extremely difficult. The Gt-r was produced for the modifiers market, at least the 32,33 and 34 were. Id take any one of those 3 over an M3 any day of the week, and they wouldnt just be marginally faster, they would be considerably faster.
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I agree the GTR is a serious beast in terms of performance & on the M3cutters forum that I also visit there are owners that have swapped a GTR for a M3 & I genuinely can't understand why? the GTR wipes the floor with a M3 in terms of performance & road presence & surely after you have experienced the GTR's power the last thing you would want is a M3.
The M3 is a cracking allrounder but a 330d does the same job, the GTR is a true performance car imo but the M3 is only a 3 series with a nice engine in it that's just my take on things...but given the choice what would you rather have a 0 to 60 time of 2.8 secs like the GTR or a leisurely 4.8 secs for the M3...it's a no brainer I reckon.
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From my experience with friends I think that once you have actually owned one they are not all that !
Yes they are bonkers quick, even as standard, but they are too easy to drive so once you have experienced beating everything in a straight line (which is too easy) then there is nothing else to particularly enjoy as they are a bit clinical
As you probably remember, there were 3 GTRs in my group. One which had c 650bhp but also active aero and he would run slicks on the track, one with 950bhp and another still being built (after 2 years!) which will have c1450bhp
I have been in the 650bhp a few times (as a passenger) and we have had our front bumper kissing the rear of an exceptionally well heeled 997 GT2 RS around Spa and a race prepped Fezza 458 with Slicks around Silverstone and I can't help but think that my friend really wasn't having to try that much because the car was doing the majority of the work and I think the drivers of the other two cars were really trying very hard (well particularly the 458 who actually ran wide eventually and went off the actual circuit!). This friend (only just turned 30) has now got rid of this GTR because he was so bored with it and he bought a Gen II 997 RS which while of course slower than the GTR is much more of a driving challenge and to which I am pleased to say he has the skill to drive and maybe it was not just the GTR flattering him before !
I think there would be more reward from driving your car flat out than a GTR because you are having to use more skill as opposed to letting the GTR do it for you
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A brilliant sum up & experience share thanks & I have heard of many owners sharing exactly the same thoughts as you & your friend, you have enjoyed some serious fun in cars.
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If I am totally honest, cutting the top of Eau Rouge and hitting c180 down the Kemmel straight can be a bit scary as a passenger, maybe I'm just getting old !
