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Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:43 pm
by bazzyboy
i have never seen a e53 with a dpf
they never have them fitted as they were a very high cost option & can cause a lot of problems later on when they clog up
check ur breather & air filter if smoking does not clear after intial bootful :driving:
other than that if its had a tuning box fitted or bad remap
something is a-miss if smoking a lot m8
get it checked out ;)

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:54 am
by Raj
Looks like I stand corrected. As the 330d and X5 use the same engine etc would have thought it run the same dpf...oh well.

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:11 am
by pvr
So ... do we get Sanj down from the stake or let him hang there a bit longer? :D

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:21 pm
by Sanj
[quote=""pvr""]So ... do we get Sanj down from the stake or let him hang there a bit longer? :D[/quote]

Get me down!

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:03 pm
by X MAN
[quote=""x555""]Yep facelift models do have them afaik i remember reading a thread on xoutpost and someone on there was adamant that they were fitted to facelifts.

Sometime ago i also had doubts whether these were fitted but then i read this thread from xoutpost were this guy was
very adamant these were fitted. Page 4 of the link below.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/ ... ncers.html

That said, i was at my local dealers this morning with the 1 series for some warranty work and asked the parts guy if
indeed pf`s were fitted to facelift E53`s , according to him against my vin (build date March 05 )there is NO particulate filter fitted to my car,
however a retrofit kit is available. So i got him to check the part number of item 3 in the realoem link and he added that some E53 X5 3.0d M57N did
leave the factory with pf`s and that the complete exhaust system is different to those that left the factory without the pf ,he mentioned it
possibly being an option at the time. Item 3 in the realoem link is fitted to E60,E61,E65,E66,E53 M57N.

The retrofit kit is different to that of the realoem link.

So it seems not all but some E53 X5 3.0d M57N have these fitted.

Apologies to everyone for the duff info on the previous page :oops: , especially Sanj.

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:08 pm
by pvr
No need to apologise to Sanj. :lol:

I, on the other hand, happily accept your apologies :rofl:

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:28 pm
by Sanj
PVR you're a nutter! As you know!

x man - my reputation is saved! :rofl:

Nice idea if it is a retrofit option! Bet it costs an absolute bomb though! Wonder if it helps reduce the smoke though? :scratchhead:

Oh and absolutely no need for the apology buddy!

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:30 pm
by pvr
My dad asked about that, he had a pre-facelift 3.0d and punitive diesel tax exists in NL (i.e. 30% taxation).

The cost was about 3k Euro to have it retrofitted. Not worth it.

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:40 pm
by blingsta
ok guys, maybe thinking about changing the PF is a bit extreme.. im gonna give a good old service pretty soon and hope it clears up a little, am i correct in thinking that theres some sort of filter under the rocker cover?

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:00 pm
by x555
[quote=""blingsta""]ok guys, maybe thinking about changing the PF is a bit extreme.. im gonna give a good old service pretty soon and hope it clears up a little, am i correct in thinking that theres some sort of filter under the rocker cover?[/quote]
check out this thread matey viewtopic.php?f=22&t=689
and the dweeb has a great how too here aswell viewtopic.php?f=22&t=262

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:12 pm
by x555
[quote=""x man""][quote=""x555""]Yep facelift models do have them afaik i remember reading a thread on xoutpost and someone on there was adamant that they were fitted to facelifts.

Sometime ago i also had doubts whether these were fitted but then i read this thread from xoutpost were this guy was
very adamant these were fitted. Page 4 of the link below.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/ ... ncers.html

That said, i was at my local dealers this morning with the 1 series for some warranty work and asked the parts guy if
indeed pf`s were fitted to facelift E53`s , according to him against my vin (build date March 05 )there is NO particulate filter fitted to my car,
however a retrofit kit is available. So i got him to check the part number of item 3 in the realoem link and he added that some E53 X5 3.0d M57N did
leave the factory with pf`s and that the complete exhaust system is different to those that left the factory without the pf ,he mentioned it
possibly being an option at the time. Item 3 in the realoem link is fitted to E60,E61,E65,E66,E53 M57N.

The retrofit kit is different to that of the realoem link.

So it seems not all but some E53 X5 3.0d M57N have these fitted.

Apologies to everyone for the duff info on the previous page :oops: , especially Sanj.[/quote][/quote]

That's the thread mate :thumbsup: i remember reading that a while back because what stuck in my head was 'amacmans' usual straight to the point questions :lol: as he often used to do on the old forum and ruffle a few feathers :rofl: (fair doo's he could start an argument in a lift that one :lol: )albeit a very knowledgable chap mind ;)
Anyway x man don't apologise to that old :oldman: fool ...i'm not as i still say we are right as SOME do have them :P :P :D

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:26 pm
by Sanj
[quote=""x555""]Anyway x man don't apologise to that old :oldman: fool ...i'm not as i still say we are right as SOME do have them :P :P :D[/quote]

Git! Hope you ordered the wrong air filter! :rofl:

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:33 pm
by x555
[quote=""Sanj""][quote=""x555""]Anyway x man don't apologise to that old :oldman: fool ...i'm not as i still say we are right as SOME do have them :P :P :D[/quote]

Git! Hope you ordered the wrong air filter! :rofl:[/quote]
If i have i'll save it for when you no doubt ask me to do yours :nahnah: ...after all you won't want to get your hands dirty now will you ........and no Sanj you cant plug it into the intravee to do this job :rofl:

Re: too much black smoke! particulate filter?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:57 am
by blingsta
[quote=""x555""][quote=""blingsta""]ok guys, maybe thinking about changing the PF is a bit extreme.. im gonna give a good old service pretty soon and hope it clears up a little, am i correct in thinking that theres some sort of filter under the rocker cover?[/quote]
check out this thread matey viewtopic.php?f=22&t=689
and the dweeb has a great how too here aswell viewtopic.php?f=22&t=262[/quote]


Thanks matey.. i'll also make sure i'll buy the upgraded part to replace it with :thumbsup: