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Re: BMW 120d sport coupe advice needed

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:51 am
by huck
[quote="Horizon"]
Did they change the engines in the cooperS in 2007, as the ones on Autotrader state a massive difference in MPG between pre. And post 2007.?
The Cooper S in the photo looks great, and they are supposed to be real fun to drive. My first motor was a 1972 minivan. They've come along way since then, ( thank God )
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Yes. The engines in the 'original' new Mini (R53) were developed with Chrysler. The late 06 onwards R56 Mini used engines which were shared with PSA and were way more efficient.


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Huck (iPhone mode!)

Re: BMW 120d sport coupe advice needed

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:16 am
by 535dboy
[quote="Horizon"]
Did they change the engines in the cooperS in 2007, as the ones on Autotrader state a massive difference in MPG between pre. And post 2007.?
The Cooper S in the photo looks great, and they are supposed to be real fun to drive. My first motor was a 1972 minivan. They've come along way since then, ( thank God )
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Can't remember date so it could be then but they went from being supercharged to turbo charged

Re: BMW 120d sport coupe advice needed

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:44 am
by Horizon
Thanks for the info guys, it would be easy to get caught out buying an early 2006 that does 23 to the gallon compared to 35 MPG ( Urban ) for the same sort of money. Also BHP is about 15 better on the newer engine.

Re: BMW 120d sport coupe advice needed

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:28 am
by X5Sport
Interested to see how the 'real' mpg is as Mini's are notorious for being about 30% less than the sated 'official' figures.  Ours is supposed to do 65mpg but we actually get mid-40s and that seems to be the same as most other owners.

The Mini Owners Forum is flooded with annoyed owners of all the Series 2 models who rightly IMHO expect figures rather nearer the official ones.  Seems the BMW 'error tolerance' made it across their entire 'fleet'.

Richard

Re: BMW 120d sport coupe advice needed

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:54 am
by huck
[quote="535dboy"]
[quote="Horizon"]
Did they change the engines in the cooperS in 2007, as the ones on Autotrader state a massive difference in MPG between pre. And post 2007.?
The Cooper S in the photo looks great, and they are supposed to be real fun to drive. My first motor was a 1972 minivan. They've come along way since then, ( thank God )
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Can't remember date so it could be then but they went from being supercharged to turbo charged
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That's right. The switch was made from R53 to R56.


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Huck (iPhone mode!)

Re: BMW 120d sport coupe advice needed

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:56 am
by huck
[quote="Horizon"]
Thanks for the info guys, it would be easy to get caught out buying an early 2006 that does 23 to the gallon compared to 35 MPG ( Urban ) for the same sort of money. Also BHP is about 15 better on the newer engine.
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You shouldn't really be caught out. As above, the changes came in with the Mk2 'new Mini'. Loads of changes and looks quite obviously different.




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Huck (iPhone mode!)