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Re: "repetitive rustling sound" - turned out to be a failing timing chain

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:41 pm
by Riggie
[quote="AW8"]
If you had described rattling sound I suspect somebody would have suggested exploring possible timing chain or tensioner issues. Sorry but I missed the video link post.

I also have not heard of this on other similar engined cars yet.

Perhaps someone ran it with wrong oil top up or at low level.

Timing chain, guides ancillaries & labour wont be cheap if job to be done properly. Ideally I would want to entrust the work to someone who has done the same job before on that engine. You may struggle to find someone so experienced & due to the rarity of the failure.

Sorry to learn of this.......tensioner failure caused me to reluctantly part with my V8 E53.
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Interesting, as the sound wasn't the classic timing chain rattle. What a pita, engine out job. No idea what the job time is for engine out and back, hope you've got a good indy to keep the price down. I shudder to think what a stealer would charge !

Re: "repetitive rustling sound" - turned out to be a failing timing chain

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:44 am
by acideraser
Got a quote - £2500k including labour and parts. They are local independent BMW and Mini specialist, not a dealer. They've done some work for me in the past - couple of oil changes and prop-shaft replacement.

Also they seem to be doing complicated jobs with engine out on a regular basis, so in terms of trust I would trust them more than my dealer's garage.

I wonder what sort of warranty should I expect for such repair if any at all and what other major problems to expect in future .... ?

Re: "repetitive rustling sound" - turned out to be a failing timing chain

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:03 am
by acideraser
[quote="AW8"]
If you had described rattling sound I suspect somebody would have suggested exploring possible timing chain or tensioner issues. Sorry but I missed the video link post.

I also have not heard of this on other similar engined cars yet.

Perhaps someone ran it with wrong oil top up or at low level.

Timing chain, guides ancillaries & labour wont be cheap if job to be done properly. Ideally I would want to entrust the work to someone who has done the same job before on that engine. You may struggle to find someone so experienced & due to the rarity of the failure.

Sorry to learn of this.......tensioner failure caused me to reluctantly part with my V8 E53.
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Well here is another video link with the bonnet up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYqJ_j585AU
What i can't understand and they could not explain is why sound goes away when engine warms up. Obviously the only way now is to take the engine out and have a look but I believe they mentioned that if it turns out this is not a timing chain - they won't charge