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[quote=""phill""]Should be glad you don't have the new system were the dealer has to update the hard drive, they are charging $465 in America.


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I do......the CIC system in my E71!! Oh well looks like I need to boost the size of the fighting fund. Be nice if it came with free upgrades for 5 years. Well I can dream can't I?

[quote=""pvr""]£99 from dealer if you trade in your old one. [/quote]

Not any more I've asked two dealers already, and they claim that system has now been scrapped and the price is for a standard update disc, ie just over £200 .....crazy stuff!!!

[quote=""pvr""]£99 from dealer if you trade in your old one. [/quote]

Not any more I've asked two dealers already, and they claim that system has now been scrapped and the price is for a standard update disc, ie just over £200 .....crazy stuff!!!

I have bought discs for all my previous BMW's with MKIV from a certain vendor on the net. I have never been disappointed once. Now it is my understanding that these are not copy's per se but use a generic database and mapping from the OEM supplier. What I'm getting at is that clearly BMW do not design and manufacture their own GPS nav system so must source one from an OEM. This OEM uses a particualr database/map which, I'm sure, will be fitted to MANY vehicles..not just BMW's. The datasets will be generic to all systems made by this OEM albeit with MINIMAL bespoke coding for front-end display stuff.

I fail to see how using another dataset provider (and one that provides WAY more functionality than the std BMW dataset) can be seen to be illegal?? If BMW were that anal about demanding customers use BMW-approved software then they should have designed a system that was NOT DVD based and required physical connection to BMW equipment in order to upload any new mapping/firmware.
This does not even address the shocking performance of the std nav system which can be outperformed by a £100 Tom Tom!!!. Now I'm lucky(!) that all my recent BMW's have had original equipment nav but it begs the question.."who in their right mind would spec a car with over £2500-worth of kit thats not all that great!!". I mean std nav has no speed camera warning (not sure if the latest incarnation has it), 7-dig postcode, perspective...the list goes on.

Why the hell would someone NOT buy modified datasets with extra functionality??? At the end of the day, I bought the car, therefore the nav system and everything else on it is mine...ergo, I can put whatever I choose on it.

*rant over*



TT

The issue of copying and modifying the OEM map disc has been discussed many times on many forums.

IF you buy the OEM disc then the Navteq (note, not BMWs, there is no other 'dataset provider') T's and C's of what you may and may not do to it are clearly spelt out, basically it's illegal to copy it, period.

...you may not extract or reutilize substantial parts of the Database nor reproduce, copy, modify, adapt, translate, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer any portion of the Database.