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Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

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Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

Post by dpbayly » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:10 pm

After retro fitting the power fold mirrors with the switch module a few months back I always folded them before leaving the car but a few weeks ago both mirrors became intermittent responding to the switch so I decided I'd re wire them to auto fold,

so I set about investigating how there wired armed with my Power Probe I discovered the motors have 2 wire and there fed with a + and - to fold them in then the polarity reverses down the wires to make them go back out so I knew I'd need a dpdt relay (double pole double throw) I also discovered the + and - was only fed down the wires for 10 seconds or so before they became nothing so I then knew I'd need to source some timer relays and Id need 1 standard 5 pin relay to activate everything off the ignition.

So picked everything up and set about drawing out the wiring diagram (looked like spaghetti junction wires everywhere) after I checked and double checked everything for back feed issues and things i then set about hooking it all up, I managed to do all the wiring in the passenger footwell behind the glove box where the fuse box is located so I could tap into an Ignition switched + and a constant + and a - all one place and all I had to do from there was lay the wires through into the doors to tap into the mirror circuit.

Anyway here's the finished product:


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Re: Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

Post by shadrack » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:26 pm

nice, but cant you set that with the scanner or inpa
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Re: Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

Post by dpbayly » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:50 pm

From what I could find out yes I think?????? but I think you need to hold the lock button on the key fob for 2 seconds to make them fold (to much of a faff if you ask me) but then I've also read that It's not possible on an E53 with out buying a £150 intravee.

Maybe someone who has actually programmed it can chime in with confirmation....

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Post by graemeX5 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:05 pm

Very neat
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Post by Raj » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:30 pm

Nice touch. I did think about doing this (and on previous models I've owned) but the thing for is the motor burning out with the constant folding in/out. Most of the time I don't need them folded, etc.
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Post by Steamyrotter » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:36 am

[quote="dpbayly"]

Maybe someone who has actually programmed it can chime in with confirmation....
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If you can get me a set at the right price I'll let you know....

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Re: Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

Post by dpbayly » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:36 am

Took mine apart and cleaned and greased all the moving parts before I fitted the mirrors when I performed the retro fit that said new gears are readily available cheaply for a rebuild.

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Post by Caesium » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:41 am

Blimey they move quick, mine take about 3-4 seconds to fold either way.
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Re: Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

Post by MrMaloo » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:39 pm

Nice modification!!! I too would be concerned about wear and tear on the motors and gears but if they can be easily replaced then its all good. I need to open my mirror casings - is it as much of an ordeal as everyone says? I dont want to break any retaining tabs - can it be done without causing any harm? Are plastic trim tools the way to go?
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Re: Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

Post by dpbayly » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:30 pm

[quote="Caesium"]
Blimey they move quick, mine take about 3-4 seconds to fold either way.
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Probably down to me stripping cleaning and greasing the mechanisms when I first got the mirrors before fitting them.

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Re: Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

Post by dpbayly » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:33 pm

[quote="MrMaloo"]
Nice modification!!! I too would be concerned about wear and tear on the motors and gears but if they can be easily replaced then its all good. I need to open my mirror casings - is it as much of an ordeal as everyone says? I dont want to break any retaining tabs - can it be done without causing any harm? Are plastic trim tools the way to go?
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I didn't read any how too's when I stripped them down and I managed it with ease and nothing broke just gentle does it is all I can say.

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Post by AW8 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:06 pm

Great little Mod that :)
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Re: Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

Post by dpbayly » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:30 pm

Thanks,

In case anyone is interested in the wiring diagram if you fancy carrying out this mod here is how its done (click on the image to see it in full size):

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and relays used:

2 X Timer relays

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121219637774? ... 4163948919

1 X DPDT relay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DPDT-12VDC-Pl ... 4167623800

1 X Standard 5 pin relay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Pin-Changeo ... 4169811218

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Post by Colin » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:38 pm

Tidy , i just had a quick count  and over a week with my work and weekend driving  if my mirrors were wired like yours they would fold out/in maybe 60 times , what happens in heavy frost can you override them if there frozen ..
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Re: Just wired my power fold mirrors to my ignition to auto fold in/out

Post by dpbayly » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:52 pm

Well I ran the same mod on my E39 M5 mirrors through 2 winters even in heavy snow and there was never an issue but if wanted a toggle switch could be fitted in the Switched ignition 12V then you could switch the mod completely off.

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