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X5 Gearbox/Transfer Box Issues Fixed by BMW Star Rated Tyres

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Re: X5 Gearbox/Transfer Box Issues Fixed by BMW Star Rated Tyres

Post by Ranger 6 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:11 pm

[quote="fenj66"]
when you say "shaved" does that mean that the star marked tyres actually come new with less tread on them than a "standard" tyre?
if thats the case then fitting a pair of part worn standard tyres would have the same effect wouldnt it?  :blink:
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There's a lot of 'guff' on the internet about this sort of thing and I'm just going to add to it..... ;)

AFAIK the Star marked tyres are quite simply made to a specific rolling radius, so in theory a 255/40/19 star marked to fit an X3 will actually be physically the same rolling radius as the 235/45/19 which goes on the front. These tyres will be different physical sizes to tyres available with the same sidewall markings that aren't star marked.

What I can confirm is that they're not 'shaved' they come straight from the factory just like any other tyre. So, no it's not like fitting part worn tyres.

[quote="X5Sport"]...It only applied to staggered set ups on BMW cars as the tolerance in terms of different rolling diameter is supposedly very tight and can cause 'wind-up'.

I would have expected the system to cope, but the difference of a standard over a '*' marked can be as much as 23-25mm on the rolling radius front to back.

There are different versions for all sorts of cars such as
MO for Merc
AO for Audi
VO for VW
N1, N2, N3....etc for Porkers
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Speaking from experience on this one. My X3 had three different brands of tyre with varying wear and a change to star marked Pirellis cured the problems.

The staggered tyre issue is well known on X3s. This is the first post I've seen of it happening with an X5.

The problem is simple, different tyre sizes front to rear will mean the transfer box is constantly being wound up as each end of the transmission is trying to turn at different speeds. Some systems - the Calibra has been mentioned, I've also seen the TT having problems - are particularly sensitive even to tyre wear on all-square set ups.

From doing some research I think that BMW attempt to overcome the problem by getting the tyre manufacturers to make the sizes that fit on staggered wheels to be the same rolling radius. It's my guess that Porsche are doing the same as the Macan is going to have staggered wheels too.

Have a quick google for X3 transfer box and you'll see what I mean  :)
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Re: X5 Gearbox/Transfer Box Issues Fixed by BMW Star Rated Tyres

Post by Nat » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:24 pm

Hi,

I am familiar with what is known as axle wind.

My jeep used to do it and when going really slowly on full lock you could feel the wheels hopping , but I am sure that was due to a high lock up on the rear diff. It may also have been due to the axle unwinding itself. That said the jeep was an old design and although I admit I have heard of this, I am surprised that its still an outstanding issue. In my time I have had 3 audi Quattros ( original UR ), golf 4 motion, 2 jeeps and am on my third X5 ( 2x E53 and 1 X E70 ) .
To date Ihave never had an issue , experienced this issue or personally known anyone who has had this issue.
Clearly its either uncommon or I have been lucky, but I am thinking given the number of 4X4 on the roads if this was a real issue surely we would have heard a lot more about this and a lot sooner.

Me...........Im still not convinced. However I cannot argue with the fact that someone has changed their tyres and things are better. All I can think of is perhaps the tyres that were on there were just wrong in the first place.

Regards,

Nat.

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Re: X5 Gearbox/Transfer Box Issues Fixed by BMW Star Rated Tyres

Post by jaynana » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:56 pm

i have always had different front and rear tyres and have never had this issue. in fact i changed fronts only with brand new yokohamas last year so they'r defo less worn than the rears. still no issue.

keep fingers  and toes crossed i guess.  :P
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