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Engine Oil question

Post by sonny007 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:38 pm

Hi,

Just checked the engine oil in my X5 3.0d 2005 and its black.

Was wondering whats the best oil and how many litres would I need?
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by Sanj » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:05 pm

05W 30 - use ECP and their various online codes (SERVICE30) and get 2 x 4 litres of the stuff.

Car takes 7.3 litres
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by sonny007 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:10 pm

They only have Valvoline. Is that good?

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/BMW_X ... 6b6&000398
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by sonny007 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:21 pm

Here's what I have added to the basket-

Valvoline Engine OilSynpower Fully-Synthetic 5W30 Engine Oil (4 Litre)
Part Number: 521770390
£35.40

Bosch Air Filter
Part Number: 502110260
£25.14

Bosch Fuel Filter
Part Number: 503110380
£23.40

Hengst Oil Filter
Part Number: 501110280
£9.84

Denso Pollen Filter
Part Number: 507110180
£25.80

Do I need anything else?
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by mark_le_b » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:11 pm

more oil......

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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by AW8 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:13 pm

Maybe worth changing the oil breather........I don't have a diesel so cant be specific but a new vortex one was fitted after a certain date. The diesel brigade will be able to advise on this dealer part.
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by sonny007 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:13 pm

Yes, i will get 8 litres
Is that a good brand though?
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by sonny007 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:16 pm

[quote="AW8"]
Maybe worth changing the oil breather........I don't have a diesel so cant be specific but a new vortex one was fitted after a certain date. The diesel brigade will be able to advise on this dealer part.
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I have a late 2005 model.

Couldn't find breather on ECP. Do i need to buy from stealers and how much does one cost?
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by Denis O » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:38 pm

[quote="sonny007"]
[quote="AW8"]
Maybe worth changing the oil breather........I don't have a diesel so cant be specific but a new vortex one was fitted after a certain date. The diesel brigade will be able to advise on this dealer part.
[/quote]

I have a late 2005 model.

Couldn't find breather on ECP. Do i need to buy from stealers and how much does one cost?
[/quote]

Stealer and about £45. My 2006 had the vortex and my 2004 didn't. You're in the middle so may or may not.
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by sonny007 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:40 pm

[quote="Denis O"]
[quote="sonny007"]
[quote="AW8"]
Maybe worth changing the oil breather........I don't have a diesel so cant be specific but a new vortex one was fitted after a certain date. The diesel brigade will be able to advise on this dealer part.
[/quote]

I have a late 2005 model.

Couldn't find breather on ECP. Do i need to buy from stealers and how much does one cost?
[/quote]

Stealer and about £45. My 2006 had the vortex and my 2004 didn't. You're in the middle so may or may not.
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How do i know if mine has vortex?
And if i does, would i still need to change?
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by rb0135 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:54 pm

Facelifted Diesels had the new vortex type fitted. Facelifted was from somewhere in 2004 up. I have a 2005 and it has the vortex and doesn't need changing, although some people do.

If when you accelerate and you are pouring out black smoke, then you need to change the breather as a start.

Valvoline is good oil, but the recommend is Castrol Fully Synthetic and some use Mobil1. Just make sure the specs match (specs can be found in the car booklet or a search will show, I don't have it in front of me atm).

I have changed the oil numerous times and it takes 7.5 litres, so 2*4 Litres you need.

Just for your information, Diesel oil is always black. It blackens from the soot. Once you put the new oil in, check it in a few days using the dipstick and you will see it is black already..

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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by sonny007 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:57 pm

Very helpful mate. Cheers  :)
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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by X5Sport » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:07 pm

Not always true.  Mine was a face lifted 2005 and did not have one.  It still had the foam bogroll.  There is no hard and fast rule, but for the sake of £50 you could always do a 'sale or return' from BMW Parts.

As above, Diesel oil goes black very quickly. Any fully synthetic is fine as long as it meets BMW LL04 and ACEA C3 standards.  OEM is Castrol Edge Professional 0W30 or 5W30.  I think it's now called Edge FST.

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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by storminmike » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:05 pm

[quote="X5Sport"]
Not always true.  Mine was a face lifted 2005 and did not have one.  It still had the foam bogroll.  There is no hard and fast rule, but for the sake of £50 you could always do a 'sale or return' from BMW Parts.

As above, Diesel oil goes black very quickly. Any fully synthetic is fine as long as it meets BMW LL04 and ACEA C3 standards.  OEM is Castrol Edge Professional 0W30 or 5W30.  I think it's now called Edge FST.

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The above can be verified as my 54 plate facelift had the bog roll type

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Re: Engine Oil question

Post by Johnny-p » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:36 pm

+2

My 2005 05 had bog roll aswell..

Changing it has reduced black smoke considerably.
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