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really this must be a joke??

Post by shadrack » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:13 pm

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Post by Don Coffey » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:18 pm

It's Europe, so deadly serious. Those clowns in Brussels live on a different plant.

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Post by sramsay » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:20 pm

Not sure we will be in the EU by then!

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Post by X5Sport » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:09 am

So used, unlimited, cars will therefore command a premium......

Low mileage, one owner, X5 40d (no limiter).......yours for just £100k ;)........ Someone is bound to try it.

But then again, if we're all driving electric by then, 70mph will be a thing of the past. :(

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Re: really this must be a joke??

Post by shadrack » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:02 pm

I bloody wont
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Post by Rusty » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:19 am

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Post by pvr » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:54 am

They keep firing these things about, never going to happen as Germany will veto it. And what Germany says, that will happen  8)
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Post by Raj » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:40 am

Agree wth PVR. You'd wipe out huge amounts of revenue currently generated by the car industry.

Also, it wouldn't help reduce road deaths tbh as most motorway accidents involve a hgv of some sort which are already restricted to 60mph.

That pic is the M6 J10 with variable speed limits now in place. So showing a pic where you are restricted to 50 is a bit stupid to use to say you want to restrict cars to 70 lol
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Post by jaynana » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:53 pm

dreadfully, there will come a day though - where teh max speed of a car at any given time will be controlled by teh speed limit of the road its on!

hopefully i'd be in a different world by then  O:-)
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Post by Caesium » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:00 pm

If you look at the statistics you will find most fatal vehicle collisions happen on 60mph and lower roads.

Motorways by contrast are much safer.

So how would limiting a car to 70 help anything?

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Post by markda » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:44 pm

I completely agree the knock on affect to the motor industry would be catastrophic.  I'd imagine the tuning companies would all start to offer pluggable tuning boxes or dongles that plug into the management ports on vehicles and override the limiter and can be easy be removed for plod or MOT inspections.

The motor industry has a bleak future; a constant push for weight saving and fuel economy, regulation around emissions, speed limiters and I can see the adoption of these insurance 'black boxes' becoming more popular in the future as well.  God help us!

If they are so intent in saving lives, use the time, money and resources to concentrate on hospital spends, railway safety and such!  Just leave the motorist alone, it's not enough were all paying through the nose for fuel, tax and insurance.   

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Post by Drpellypo » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:52 pm

Do you know what I think they should do. They should limit young people to 30mph, say for first 3 years of passing your test. And do the same for people who've had an accident where speed has been the major contributing factor.

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Post by AW8 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:26 am

IMO a 30mph restriction would create risk of being rear ended. I personally think that there is a place for showing appropriately edited post collision videos with crash scene footage and interviews with those involved  directly and indirectly.....viewing same could be a requirements to getting a licence it could be incorporated at end if theory test.

Speed can kill but usually when used inappropriately and often with an error of judgement or failure to consider consequences.

Arguably there is an additional issue that driving lessons and test fail to give any skill or sense of driving anywhere near a vehicles limits - thus many have little sense when a vehicles limits are approached and have little ability to respond appropriately where able.
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Post by snipez999 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:05 am

Make everyone who has passed their test take an IAM test after 3 years. That's more about keeping traffic flowing, anticipating and keeping up. Gets my vote.
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Re: really this must be a joke??

Post by Steamyrotter » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:09 pm

Dont forget there are still those "The test doesn't apply to me" people who assume they can do anything anyway...
If things were meant to be easy, then I will soon complicate them....
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