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really this must be a joke??
really this must be a joke??
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- Don Coffey
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Re: really this must be a joke??
It's Europe, so deadly serious. Those clowns in Brussels live on a different plant.
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Re: really this must be a joke??
Not sure we will be in the EU by then!
Re: really this must be a joke??
So used, unlimited, cars will therefore command a premium......
Low mileage, one owner, X5 40d (no limiter).......yours for just £100k ........ Someone is bound to try it.
But then again, if we're all driving electric by then, 70mph will be a thing of the past.
Richard
Low mileage, one owner, X5 40d (no limiter).......yours for just £100k ........ Someone is bound to try it.
But then again, if we're all driving electric by then, 70mph will be a thing of the past.
Richard
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Re: really this must be a joke??
I bloody wont
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Re: really this must be a joke??
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I bloody wont
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I bloody wont
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Re: really this must be a joke??
They keep firing these things about, never going to happen as Germany will veto it. And what Germany says, that will happen
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Re: really this must be a joke??
Agree wth PVR. You'd wipe out huge amounts of revenue currently generated by the car industry.
Also, it wouldn't help reduce road deaths tbh as most motorway accidents involve a hgv of some sort which are already restricted to 60mph.
That pic is the M6 J10 with variable speed limits now in place. So showing a pic where you are restricted to 50 is a bit stupid to use to say you want to restrict cars to 70 lol
Also, it wouldn't help reduce road deaths tbh as most motorway accidents involve a hgv of some sort which are already restricted to 60mph.
That pic is the M6 J10 with variable speed limits now in place. So showing a pic where you are restricted to 50 is a bit stupid to use to say you want to restrict cars to 70 lol
Re: really this must be a joke??
dreadfully, there will come a day though - where teh max speed of a car at any given time will be controlled by teh speed limit of the road its on!
hopefully i'd be in a different world by then O:-)
hopefully i'd be in a different world by then O:-)
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Re: really this must be a joke??
If you look at the statistics you will find most fatal vehicle collisions happen on 60mph and lower roads.
Motorways by contrast are much safer.
So how would limiting a car to 70 help anything?
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisat ... statistics
Motorways by contrast are much safer.
So how would limiting a car to 70 help anything?
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisat ... statistics
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Re: really this must be a joke??
I completely agree the knock on affect to the motor industry would be catastrophic. I'd imagine the tuning companies would all start to offer pluggable tuning boxes or dongles that plug into the management ports on vehicles and override the limiter and can be easy be removed for plod or MOT inspections.
The motor industry has a bleak future; a constant push for weight saving and fuel economy, regulation around emissions, speed limiters and I can see the adoption of these insurance 'black boxes' becoming more popular in the future as well. God help us!
If they are so intent in saving lives, use the time, money and resources to concentrate on hospital spends, railway safety and such! Just leave the motorist alone, it's not enough were all paying through the nose for fuel, tax and insurance.
The motor industry has a bleak future; a constant push for weight saving and fuel economy, regulation around emissions, speed limiters and I can see the adoption of these insurance 'black boxes' becoming more popular in the future as well. God help us!
If they are so intent in saving lives, use the time, money and resources to concentrate on hospital spends, railway safety and such! Just leave the motorist alone, it's not enough were all paying through the nose for fuel, tax and insurance.
Re: really this must be a joke??
Do you know what I think they should do. They should limit young people to 30mph, say for first 3 years of passing your test. And do the same for people who've had an accident where speed has been the major contributing factor.
Re: really this must be a joke??
IMO a 30mph restriction would create risk of being rear ended. I personally think that there is a place for showing appropriately edited post collision videos with crash scene footage and interviews with those involved directly and indirectly.....viewing same could be a requirements to getting a licence it could be incorporated at end if theory test.
Speed can kill but usually when used inappropriately and often with an error of judgement or failure to consider consequences.
Arguably there is an additional issue that driving lessons and test fail to give any skill or sense of driving anywhere near a vehicles limits - thus many have little sense when a vehicles limits are approached and have little ability to respond appropriately where able.
Speed can kill but usually when used inappropriately and often with an error of judgement or failure to consider consequences.
Arguably there is an additional issue that driving lessons and test fail to give any skill or sense of driving anywhere near a vehicles limits - thus many have little sense when a vehicles limits are approached and have little ability to respond appropriately where able.
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Re: really this must be a joke??
Make everyone who has passed their test take an IAM test after 3 years. That's more about keeping traffic flowing, anticipating and keeping up. Gets my vote.
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Re: really this must be a joke??
Dont forget there are still those "The test doesn't apply to me" people who assume they can do anything anyway...
If things were meant to be easy, then I will soon complicate them....
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Anything I say is only from my personal experience and knowledge..
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But then I could be talking bollox.. O:-)
Please note...
Anything I say is only from my personal experience and knowledge..
I don't assume to know everything, and know there is a lot I don't know..
But then I could be talking bollox.. O:-)