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3.0d engine knocking badly. FIXED! Yay

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3.0d engine knocking badly. FIXED! Yay

Post by JamieX5 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:05 pm

Any suggestions guys? Driving back from Cornwall. Started to hear noise from engine, so pulled over and heard horrible noise coming from engine. Didn't loose any power that I remember. It isn't misfiring and no warnings on display. Injectors and crankcase breather we changed / serviced under 5k ago. Car is on 120k now. One thing I have noticed is that if you run engine with oil cap off the is a lot of pressure coming out, is this normal? I fear the worst.
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle

Post by macca » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:09 am

checked oil level??,  checked cracked exhaust manifold??

couple of places to start

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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle

Post by stevox5 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:12 am

Before getting too deep into the engine have a very close look at the front crankshaft pulley these can knock like hell when the rubber inner damper fails . If the engine runs sweet I would have a close look here first they make a surprisingly bad noise not unlike a big end knock.
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle

Post by JamieX5 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:42 am

Oil level is ok. Had new exhaust manifold so that's ok. Will have a look at the pulley? It does sound broken. Lol
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle

Post by X5Sport » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:52 am

I assume we're talking about this little device?
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle

Post by stevox5 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:09 pm

Yep that's the one.

I know it sounds a long shot but seen this more than once.
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle

Post by JamieX5 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:09 pm

Crank pulley ok. Think it might be timing chain. Oh well need to strip it down and have a look.
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle

Post by JamieX5 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:04 pm

Update. Removed inlet manifold, injectors and rocker cover today. Found number 3 injector soaking wet with diesel compared to others so they are going off to be tested. I'm just hoping its not bent a rod on the process. On the bright side everything else looks fine.
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle UPDATE

Post by Steamyrotter » Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:23 pm

Might be an idea to do a compression test whilst they are out??
Will give you a little more info on the internals??
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle UPDATE

Post by JamieX5 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:36 pm

I may well do compression check but just going to wait for injector results before next step. Hopefully sometime early this week all being well
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle UPDATE

Post by squeaky2 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:11 pm

Sounds like it could just be an injector fault as they can cause rough running at idle. If you can read fault codes that would help. 

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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle UPDATE

Post by Rusty » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:27 am

Not trying to state the obvious but make sure you put the correct injector back into its corresponding  cylinder as each one is individually coded to the car.

Hope it is a cheap fix for you mate, and yes one faulty injector will cause a rough idle which would be logged as a fault in the ECU.


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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle UPDATE

Post by JamieX5 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:16 pm

Injectors all marked so will go back in same order. No codes were stored. Just waiting to here from injector place now
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle UPDATE

Post by JamieX5 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:15 pm

Injectors all came back ok so have now removed the cylinder head. Piston number one can be moved up and down by hand at least 4/5mm so that is the problem now just got to remove sump to find the cause. Either big or little end bearings failed i suspect, hopefully crank should be ok. Very pleased to find the problem though.
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Re: 3.0d engine knocking badly at idle PROBLEM FOUND!

Post by IanP » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:51 pm

Thats not good news, if you can move the piston that far I would reckon its the bottom end rather than a little end. I have had 2 bottom end failures recently, once on the X5 which damaged the crank, and once on my Ducati which didnt (the bottom end bolts had come loose). Hopefully you will have caught it in time and the crank will be OK

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