Are my tyres dangerous?

[JamesTil6569]

Hi guys and gals,

Picked up my X5 a week ago and am loving it. Popped the X into Kwik Fit to have the air con regassesd and they called me out to look at the rear tyres. They say they are excessively worn and dangerous to drive on, literally I could have a blow out at any stage. Then proceeded to quote me £520 to two new rears.

So my question is, in everyone's experience, are my tyres dangerous or is this normal wear for the camber settings of an X5? No one can deny the wear but are they scaremongering for a sale?

Thanks

James

[JamesTil6569]

Sorry for the double pic of one side, here is the other side.

[storminmike]

WOW 

That looks like it's been running a wall of death on the inner edge, the rest of the tyre looks untouched.

Mine wore the OUTER edge of one tyre and has never eaten an inner. Others have talked about inner wear but I personally have never seen that so I couldn't say if that's the same.....but it sure doesn't look right to me. That looks WAAYYY extreme

[Riggie]

You must have at least 1.6mm across ty centre 75% of tye tyre. It depends on whether the tread shown in your pics amounts to the above. You would need to measure and then calculate from the width of the tyre. There is no stipulation to have any visible tread outside the centre 75%, however any sign of the cord of the tyre showing through would make it unlawful.

The use of the term 'dangerous' is wrong in my opinion, it may of course be illegal depending on the above meaurements.

[Riggie]

Mine showed wear on the inside edge, cured by camber adjustment following a 4 wheel alignment.

[storminmike]

[quote="Riggie"]
You must have at least 1.6mm across ty centre 75% of tye tyre. It depends on whether the tread shown in your pics amounts to the above. You would need to measure and then calculate from the width of the tyre. There is no stipulation to have any visible tread outside the centre 75%, however any sign of the cord of the tyre showing through would make it unlawful.

The use of the term 'dangerous' is wrong in my opinion, it may of course be illegal depending on the above meaurements.
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How close do you think it is to the Cord? The colouring change makes it look like it's gone beyond a skin.

There may not be skins or laminations but it sure looks that way

[storminmike]

[quote="Riggie"]
Mine showed wear on the inside edge, cured by camber adjustment following a 4 wheel alignment.
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I hope mine has been cured too by the same method......but the broken bolt and new wishbone saga still smarts...many many £100s later. But then again mine wore on OUTER edge...on one tyre....and the other one was even wear all across

Dangerous or not....it would appear that it will eat a new set too if not corrected

[Riggie]

Difficult to tell from the pics, but I would agree tyat without camber adjustment, they will eat the next set as well.

It's a real pita considering how much tread is left, but I would get the alignment done and get some new tyres on there. Camskill tyres are hard to bet on pric. Just Google Camskill.

[storminmike]

[quote="Riggie"]
Difficult to tell from the pics, but I would agree tyat without camber adjustment, they will eat the next set as well.

It's a real pita considering how much tread is left, but I would get the alignment done and get some new tyres on there. Camskill tyres are hard to bet on pric. Just Google Camskill.
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That's what shocked me just as much....the fact that there appears to be so much meat on the rest of the tyre tread....and not in a tapered way either.

Is there an under inflation issue (guess) on top of a potential camber fault because I just can't fathom how that edge would be so worn AND leave so much meat on the rest of the tyre

[AW8]

There are two issues here...................safety & legality

Safety :As far as safety goes I would replace them as the smooth areas are going to be prone to punctures if worn so the contact rubber is excessively thin & causes the integrity of the tyre to be vulnerbale.

Legality :

Contrary to mixed views the tyres are illegal if smooth to touch or absent of visible tread anywhere across the tread pattern. It is correct that UK law stiplulates you only need 1.6mm depth across center 75% of tread pattern width, however, & this is the important bit............You must have some visible tread throughout the tread pattern & this includes the outer edges.

If either tyre has prior treaded areas that are now smooth to touch then the tyre concerned is illegal.....................Potentially 3 points per tyre !

I am not in the habit of knowingly giving wrong advice & on this occasion I am 100% confident the advice I have given is correct.

Not preaching & accept replacement is an individual choice, however, keen to ensure correct advice given.

Hope this helps

[Raj]

Personally think that is not a camber issue but more likely incorrect toe. Toe is a measurement of how much the wheels are turned in or out from a straight-ahead position.

Camber still wears the tyre fairly evenly across the whole width of the tyre tread.

[storminmike]

[quote="Raj"]
Personally think that is not a camber issue but more likely incorrect toe. Toe is a measurement of how much the wheels are turned in or out from a straight-ahead position.

Camber still wears the tyre fairly evenly across the whole width of the tyre tread.
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That sounds like a fair assessment...mine used to turn left on it's own...albeit slowly. The left rear outer edge was worn and mentally I thought perhaps the left rear was pointing inwards at the front....a bit of rear wheel steer if you will

Extrapolating this to the tyres above could be that they are both pointing outwards at their leading edge, but how would that happen?

Lowered perhaps mucking the geometry or pure wear?

[IanP]

Mine was exactly the same and cured by getting 4 wheel alignment done. I say exactly the same but to my shame  it went down to the cord, with loads of tread left on the outside

[535dboy]

[quote="AW8"]
There are two issues here...................safety & legality

Safety :As far as safety goes I would replace them as the smooth areas are going to be prone to punctures if worn so the contact rubber is excessively thin & causes the integrity of the tyre to be vulnerbale.

Legality : Contrary to mixed views the tyres are illegal if smooth to touch or absent of visible tread anywhere across the tread pattern. It is correct that UK law stiplulates you only need 1.6mm depth across center 75% of tread pattern width, however, & this is the important bit............You must have some visible tread throughout the tread pattern & this includes the outer edges.

If either tyre has prior treaded areas that are now smooth to touch then the tyre concerned is illegal.....................Potentially 3 points per tyre !

I am not in the habit of knowingly giving wrong advice & on this occasion I am 100% confident the advice I have given is correct.

Not preaching & accept replacement is an individual choice, however, keen to ensure correct advice given.

Hope this helps
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What do you know 

[535dboy]

To the OP I'd be kicking them straight off the car