Sorry - another tyre thread!

[Raj]

[quote=""x555""][quote=""Raj""]I went round a large roundabout at approx 20mph (if that) with a light amount of rain water on the road and the back end started to slide. Never thought I'd be able to get the backend out on the X5 and probably looked quite cool...lol but it just shows how tyres can react. [/quote]

I find that hard to believe at 20 mph there must have been something on the road for that to happen in which case it wouldn't have mattered what tyres were on the car!!!
BTW totally agree RE the tyres being the only thing that keeps you on the road actually only about 7 to 8" of each tyre does which isn't a lot when you think of the size of the x.[/quote]

When I said slide it wasn't quite the backend drift you may have pictured but the backend did start to let go. I was accelerating at the time but tbh the Marshall tyres were genuinely crap.

There may well have been a small amount of oil or something but the effect can be the same with different tyres on each axle on a 4 wheel drive car, especially if the fronts are far better quality (grip level, etc) than the fronts.

[storminmike]

[quote=""Waka""]http://www.tyretraders.com/tyreInformat ... 5R19107VST
although they've put the price up a fiver since I started this thread!
These are the rears but they did say the fronts would be the same price when they get them in stock next month.

W.[/quote]

Good afternoon....this is my first post on this forum so please be nice

I now own an E53 3.0d sport and I too have been looking at tyre prices with some strange results

I like the Yokohama Advans that are already on...they're soooooooo quiet
But what would they do in snow...and for that matter up a against Toyo Proxes on General Grabber UHP?

The proxes and grabbers are similair V patterned but are they noisier than each other or the advans?

Which would I hate on the motorway and which will leave me embarrased on the snow?


Toyo Proxes

Tyre Traders
qoute for the rears 285/45/19 @ £139 ea garage fitted
No quote for fronts as they had none!!

Ears Motorsport - want
qoute for the rears 285/45/19 @ £163 ea garage fitted
qoute for the fronts 255/50/19 @ £150 ea garage fitted

Best combined then is (139*2)+(150*2)=£578
Ears only is (163*2)+(150*2)=£656!!
Maybe if TT get them in it will be (139*2)+(139*2)=£556



YOKOHAMA ADVAN ST V802
Tyre Traders
qoute for the rears 285/45/19 @ £158 ea garage fitted
No quote for fronts as they had none!!

Ears Motorsport - want
qoute for the rears 285/45/19 @ £162 ea garage fitted
qoute for the fronts 255/50/19 @ £135 ea garage fitted

Nothing in it (162*2)+(135*2)=£595

General Grabber UHP
Ears Motorsport - want
qoute for the rears 285/45/19 @ £138 a garage fitted
qoute for the fronts 255/50/19 @ £127 ea garage fitted

Total (138*2)+(127*2)=£533

So
Toyo proxes all round £578 via two stops...or
ADVAN ST V802 all round £595...or
Toyo proxes all round £556 (if as cheap as rears) if TTs get some fronts in???
General Grabber UHP all round £533

Best deals I've found....opinions please?

[storminmike]

Well I left this a while to garner opinions on the tyre choices and opinions on prices but no one seems to have offered an opinion one way or another??

No one really have an opinion ?

[CondorX5]

I think everyone is tyre-ed of snow tyre threads do a search and there will be some threads here with ideas - generally and FWIW, most main tyre manufacturers make decent snow tyres which make any car much safer and nicer to handle in wet/ icy / snowy weather when the temp is consistently below 7 degrees. I'm putting mine on this weekend to be ready for the much colder weather said to be on its way.

Vredestein Wintrac extremes are my choice for the X- 255/55r18 for the 4.8iS, 17" for other models - I posted the details up earlier this year, can't remember now. Vredesteins are sold out countrywide in bigger 4x4 sizes, no stocks awaited for another year apparently, even from Tyremen (main Vredie dealers), but Hankook make a cheaper model and you can get Pirelli Snow and Ice, Contis and Avons in winter tyre form if you look around. Camskills are completely sold out of winter tyres.

If you're looking for all weather, a lot of people stick with Diamaris, others go with Toyo Proxes - neither are great in snow and ice, but then that's not what they are made for. Hope it helps.

[storminmike]

[quote=""CondorX5""]I think everyone is tyre-ed of snow tyre threads do a search and there will be some threads here with ideas - generally and FWIW, most main tyre manufacturers make decent snow tyres which make any car much safer and nicer to handle in wet/ icy / snowy weather when the temp is consistently below 7 degrees. I'm putting mine on this weekend to be ready for the much colder weather said to be on its way.

Vredestein Wintrac extremes are my choice for the X- 255/55r18 for the 4.8iS, 17" for other models - I posted the details up earlier this year, can't remember now. Vredesteins are sold out countrywide in bigger 4x4 sizes, no stocks awaited for another year apparently, even from Tyremen (main Vredie dealers), but Hankook make a cheaper model and you can get Pirelli Snow and Ice, Contis and Avons in winter tyre form if you look around. Camskills are completely sold out of winter tyres.

If you're looking for all weather, a lot of people stick with Diamaris, others go with Toyo Proxes - neither are great in snow and ice, but then that's not what they are made for. Hope it helps.[/quote]

Thanks for the reply

I understand the merits of buying snow(ish) tyres but I'm forced into changing the normal ones anyway. I suppose what I was looking for is tyres for summer that will cope (just) with the odd snow flurry. I can't afford the luxury of 2 sets

Given that tyres aint cheap whatever I was after a real world experience of proxes v Grabber UHP v ADVAN ST V802 as they're in and at the upper end of my price bracket

I have only experience of ADVAN ST V802 as that's what it came with and they're really nice in the dry. Proxes seem to match them on price but I guess Diamaris are a leap up in price...plus reading the tyre threads suggest they wear quick?

Proxes and grabbers are V pattern and I've no idea how they go on snow or would they be embarrasing. They look the business but what do I know as like I say I only know ADVAN ST V802

The wife's freelander has grabbers on but we've not had them on during last winter. They seem a bit noisy but there again the freelander is a bit hard anyhow. They seem to have a tad of understeer but then the freelander is more front than rear drive unlike the BMW


ps....proxes seem hard to get for the front as you will see from my pricing post above

would the ADVAN ST V802 cut it in snow or at least match Proxes and grabbers

[Waka]

Ordered Saturday evening and they turned up today.


They seem to stand up to inspection too!

Even better, they've reduced the price to £103
http://www.tyretraders.com/tyreInformat ... 0R19103VST

W.