Here we go......more taxes

X5Sport · Post by **X5Sport** » Thu May 31, 2012 5:45 pm

It seems that the Treasury has suddenly woken up to the fact that newer cars are cleaner and as their emissions fall so does the Government's tax take from VED.......so an investigation on the future of VED is underway. Anyone else think this isn't going to go in drivers favour? People switch to cleaner cars to save money (I'm not one who subscribes to them doing it for the Planet) and then get jumped on again. Same as the big drive to 'Go Diesel' in the 1980's and early 1990's - which those that did then got clobbered for doing.

BBC News link

mogsyman · Post by **mogsyman** » Thu May 31, 2012 6:12 pm

There are two facts I've learnt about life:

You will be taxed to within a inch of your life

And then you die

Cannondale · Post by **Cannondale** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:36 pm

Just hope they dont mess with the pre March 2006 cars

Rich..

mogsyman · Post by **mogsyman** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:47 pm

[quote=""Cannondale""]Just hope they dont mess with the pre March 2006 cars

Rich..[/quote]

No doubt if they can they will.

But all the old shit boxes, pre 1986 will still pay f##k-all

storminmike · Post by **storminmike** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:43 pm

[quote=""X5Sport""]It seems that the Treasury has suddenly woken up to the fact that newer cars are cleaner and as their emissions fall so does the Government's tax take from VED.......so an investigation on the future of VED is underway. Anyone else think this isn't going to go in drivers favour? People switch to cleaner cars to save money (I'm not one who subscribes to them doing it for the Planet) and then get jumped on again. Same as the big drive to 'Go Diesel' in the 1980's and early 1990's - which those that did then got clobbered for doing.

BBC News link[/quote]

It's stories like this that prove the distribution of VED is based b@llsh!t
What about cola bubbles excise duty...that's co2

up next...switch to LPG....then LPG prices through the roof
tyre width tax
weight tax

just stick it on fuel and have done with it....but that's harder to calculate returns isn't it mr exchequer....but at least its proprtional and not based on patronised cr@p

mogsyman · Post by **mogsyman** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:59 pm

Adding to fuel seems the fairest way in my books - use more fuel, pay more taxes

Cannondale · Post by **Cannondale** » Thu May 31, 2012 9:02 pm

[quote=""mogsyman""]Adding to fuel seems the fairest way in my books - use more fuel, pay more taxes

[/quote]

Could be good for my X as it does less than 100 miles a week most of the time.

But it is only Â£270 to Tax and the rate it can use fuel at it might cost more.

Rich...

mogsyman · Post by **mogsyman** » Thu May 31, 2012 9:06 pm

Probem is there needs to be a fair way of taxing rather than simply taking money from the pockets of perceived 'rich' folk.

I only drive 6000 miles per annum in my Porsche but pay the highest duty - it's not harming the environment anywhere near as much as a sales rep in a vectra travelling 35000 per annum.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:17 pm

I am of the opinion that VED and basic third party insurance should be added to fuel prices. As said above, the more miles, the more pollution, also the more damage to the roads etc so the correlation between mileage and fuel use would be more in line.
With the insurance, you would only have to pay additional charges to increase your level of cover as you wished, thus getting away from those annoying uninsured drivers.

Whilst on this type of subject (sure this has been asked before but what the hey), do you think the MOT should be age and mileage dependant? If you only use your car for 5k pa, will the wear and tear really be in line with that of someone doing 30k pa after 3 years? So contentious issue I'm sure, but what do people think?

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scooby1doo1 · Post by **scooby1doo1** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:10 am

[quote=""rusty nail""]I am of the opinion that VED and basic third party insurance should be added to fuel prices. As said above, the more miles, the more pollution, also the more damage to the roads etc so the correlation between mileage and fuel use would be more in line.
With the insurance, you would only have to pay additional charges to increase your level of cover as you wished, thus getting away from those annoying uninsured drivers.

Whilst on this type of subject (sure this has been asked before but what the hey), do you think the MOT should be age and mileage dependant? If you only use your car for 5k pa, will the wear and tear really be in line with that of someone doing 30k pa after 3 years? So contentious issue I'm sure, but what do people think?

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well TBH if you don't use your car very often, ball joint rubber seals, bushers and the likes will still perish possible Evan more.

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shadrack · Post by **shadrack** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:15 am

[quote=""scooby1doo1""][quote=""rusty nail""]I am of the opinion that VED and basic third party insurance should be added to fuel prices. As said above, the more miles, the more pollution, also the more damage to the roads etc so the correlation between mileage and fuel use would be more in line.
With the insurance, you would only have to pay additional charges to increase your level of cover as you wished, thus getting away from those annoying uninsured drivers.

Whilst on this type of subject (sure this has been asked before but what the hey), do you think the MOT should be age and mileage dependant? If you only use your car for 5k pa, will the wear and tear really be in line with that of someone doing 30k pa after 3 years? So contentious issue I'm sure, but what do people think?

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well TBH if you don't use your car very often, ball joint rubber seals, bushers and the likes will still perish possible Evan more.

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Totally agree with that often low milage cars can be more trouble than a high milage well serviced car, also low milage have been stood so open to very corroded parts

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:19 pm

I agree, which is why I thought they should be time and mileage dependant, so either 3 years or say 60k, then annually or 20k since last MOT?

Just a thought.

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graemeX5 · Post by **graemeX5** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:33 am

I think they will change the tax for older cars and anything 73 onwards will go up.

However, I am now thinking about a classic car poss an old rover pre 73, with no road tax and I have read from November cars made before 1960 will not need an MOT what a result, so you can have an old car untested and free tax and emit lots of CO2.

Makes me think there is poss an X5 for sale with high road tax needs an annual mot and lots of CO2

535dboy · Post by **535dboy** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:58 am

[quote=""mogsyman""]There are two facts I've learnt about life:

You will be taxed to within a inch of your life

And then you die

[/quote]

And get taxed more!!!

mogsyman · Post by **mogsyman** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:08 am

[quote=""535dboy""][quote=""mogsyman""]There are two facts I've learnt about life:

You will be taxed to within a inch of your life

And then you die

[/quote]

And get taxed more!!![/quote]

True, forgot about that!

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