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chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
- acideraser
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chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
Hi, while I'm waiting for my new x5 30d to be build, I started thinking about possible re-map to improve mpg/performance, but not sure it it worth doing on a brand new car. Has anyone re-mapped brand new car? Are there any "side effects" - reduced engine life, engine problems and after all - will my warranty be valid after re-map etc...
thanks
acid
thanks
acid
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2011 X5 xDrive30d SE Platinum Grey 20" 336 alloys
2011 X5 xDrive30d SE Platinum Grey 20" 336 alloys
Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
As per other email I'd spend the money on the twin turbo in the first place
Yes I've had remapped cars in warranty and never had any problems though it that is the way you want to go
Yes I've had remapped cars in warranty and never had any problems though it that is the way you want to go
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
- jason@bwchiptune
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Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
we have remaped a good few brand new cars and made the the remap tuned file for other tuning dealers with no problems 

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- acideraser
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Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
Thank you Jason,
do you have remap for new 3.0d (245bhp) already?
regards
do you have remap for new 3.0d (245bhp) already?
regards
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2011 X5 xDrive30d SE Platinum Grey 20" 336 alloys
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Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
[quote=""acideraser""]Thank you Jason,
do you have remap for new 3.0d (245bhp) already?
regards[/quote]
yes we do have these ready
we can bring these up to 300bhp with 620nm of torque this was with DPf
do you have remap for new 3.0d (245bhp) already?
regards[/quote]
yes we do have these ready
we can bring these up to 300bhp with 620nm of torque this was with DPf
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- acideraser
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Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
Great
I will look into it after I get my new BMW! 


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2011 X5 xDrive30d SE Platinum Grey 20" 336 alloys
2011 X5 xDrive30d SE Platinum Grey 20" 336 alloys
Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
Jason - what does the remap deliver for the 40d? Torque, bhp, fuel economy? Are there any downsides to be aware of and is the warranty still valid?
Current: 40d M Sport, deep sea blue, oyster, 19in
Spare: VW Golf V5
History: TVR Chimera 5.0
First Car: Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9
Spare: VW Golf V5
History: TVR Chimera 5.0
First Car: Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9
Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
[quote=""MJim""]Jason - what does the remap deliver for the 40d? Torque, bhp, fuel economy? Are there any downsides to be aware of and is the warranty still valid?[/quote]
No warranty is invalidated, if it is found
Dms quoting 360bhp
Don't imagine you will see any fuel gains though
No warranty is invalidated, if it is found
Dms quoting 360bhp
Don't imagine you will see any fuel gains though
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
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Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
[quote=""MJim""]Jason - what does the remap deliver for the 40d? Torque, bhp, fuel economy? Are there any downsides to be aware of and is the warranty still valid?[/quote]
tuning these bmw software is not the problem as they are the same as any bmw ecu software
its getting to the tricore boot pin that a problem
after they are tuned it will not show any extra flash counts using boot mod
355-365bhp is a safe limit,i have seen a lot higher (376 with 680nm)but further testing is needed before im happy at leaving them over the 355-365 mark
as for warranty its down to the dealer if its found out,but if left at a safe tune then you will not have any problems with parts
i have done work for a dealer where i had to open up brand new ecu's and moduals to fix the problems with the car and they still gave warranty with the new ecu and moduals
Avftar has seen me there working

tuning these bmw software is not the problem as they are the same as any bmw ecu software
its getting to the tricore boot pin that a problem
after they are tuned it will not show any extra flash counts using boot mod
355-365bhp is a safe limit,i have seen a lot higher (376 with 680nm)but further testing is needed before im happy at leaving them over the 355-365 mark
as for warranty its down to the dealer if its found out,but if left at a safe tune then you will not have any problems with parts
i have done work for a dealer where i had to open up brand new ecu's and moduals to fix the problems with the car and they still gave warranty with the new ecu and moduals
Avftar has seen me there working

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http://www.bwchiptune.co.uk
http://www.bwautorepairs.co.uk
02085611818
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- acideraser
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Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
[quote=""jason@bwchiptune""] as for warranty its down to the dealer if its found out[/quote]
With new bmw you give you key to the dealer where they read all the service info etc. Will key hold any information about the remap or anything which may lead dealer to believe that remap was done?
Can you please PM me price for remap on xDrive 3.0 (2011) - is xdrivers discount still in applicable?
With new bmw you give you key to the dealer where they read all the service info etc. Will key hold any information about the remap or anything which may lead dealer to believe that remap was done?
Can you please PM me price for remap on xDrive 3.0 (2011) - is xdrivers discount still in applicable?
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2011 X5 xDrive30d SE Platinum Grey 20" 336 alloys
2011 X5 xDrive30d SE Platinum Grey 20" 336 alloys
Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
[quote=""acideraser""][quote=""jason@bwchiptune""] as for warranty its down to the dealer if its found out[/quote]
With new bmw you give you key to the dealer where they read all the service info etc. Will key hold any information about the remap or anything which may lead dealer to believe that remap was done?
Can you please PM me price for remap on xDrive 3.0 (2011) - is xdrivers discount still in applicable?[/quote]
Mine was in for a non related item and they found the map and it is now on all BMW systems that it is a 'tuned car' and therefore warranty now invalidated
Although I agree that most tuners will still go to safe margins, you can still have a drivetrain issue that is not related to the extra power and therefore will not be replaced under warranty
Not something I could personally afford on a £60k motor
To balance the view I have had a couple of things done under warranty post map, one being the wheel bearing which even the dealer didn't think would be covered but it was
Even so the mega expensive bits are the engine and the gearbox!!!
With new bmw you give you key to the dealer where they read all the service info etc. Will key hold any information about the remap or anything which may lead dealer to believe that remap was done?
Can you please PM me price for remap on xDrive 3.0 (2011) - is xdrivers discount still in applicable?[/quote]
Mine was in for a non related item and they found the map and it is now on all BMW systems that it is a 'tuned car' and therefore warranty now invalidated
Although I agree that most tuners will still go to safe margins, you can still have a drivetrain issue that is not related to the extra power and therefore will not be replaced under warranty
Not something I could personally afford on a £60k motor
To balance the view I have had a couple of things done under warranty post map, one being the wheel bearing which even the dealer didn't think would be covered but it was
Even so the mega expensive bits are the engine and the gearbox!!!
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
- acideraser
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Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
I had a chat with service guy yesterday, asked him about remap. he said that if you bring mapped car for service they cannot do diagnostics as it's sort of tuned for stock map and will not report any problems on remapped car... does make any sense at all cause it doesn't sound right to me 

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chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
[quote=""acideraser""][quote=""jason@bwchiptune""] as for warranty its down to the dealer if its found out[/quote]
With new bmw you give you key to the dealer where they read all the service info etc. Will key hold any information about the remap or anything which may lead dealer to believe that remap was done?
Can you please PM me price for remap on xDrive 3.0 (2011) - is xdrivers discount still in applicable?[/quote]
The price is 399 as a member on here
With new bmw you give you key to the dealer where they read all the service info etc. Will key hold any information about the remap or anything which may lead dealer to believe that remap was done?
Can you please PM me price for remap on xDrive 3.0 (2011) - is xdrivers discount still in applicable?[/quote]
The price is 399 as a member on here
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http://www.bwautorepairs.co.uk
02085611818
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http://www.bwchiptune.co.uk
http://www.bwautorepairs.co.uk
02085611818
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[quote=""acideraser""]I had a chat with service guy yesterday, asked him about remap. he said that if you bring mapped car for service they cannot do diagnostics as it's sort of tuned for stock map and will not report any problems on remapped car... does make any sense at all cause it doesn't sound right to me
[/quote]
We have the dealer tools and don't have any problems communicating with the cars after we have remapped them
We have had a good few that we have seen where the person who remapped them has used a different software or a tuned file that was made for a different car
With these cars we have had problems with communications with the dealer tools

We have the dealer tools and don't have any problems communicating with the cars after we have remapped them
We have had a good few that we have seen where the person who remapped them has used a different software or a tuned file that was made for a different car
With these cars we have had problems with communications with the dealer tools
PERFORMANCE TUNING REMAPS,DIAGNOSTICS,SERVICE & REPAIRS
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http://www.bwautorepairs.co.uk
02085611818
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http://www.bwchiptune.co.uk
http://www.bwautorepairs.co.uk
02085611818
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Re: chiptune for brand new x5 and warranty
[quote=""jason@bwchiptune""][quote=""acideraser""]I had a chat with service guy yesterday, asked him about remap. he said that if you bring mapped car for service they cannot do diagnostics as it's sort of tuned for stock map and will not report any problems on remapped car... does make any sense at all cause it doesn't sound right to me
[/quote]
We have the dealer tools and don't have any problems communicating with the cars after we have remapped them
We have had a good few that we have seen where the person who remapped them has used a different software or a tuned file that was made for a different car
With these cars we have had problems with communications with the dealer tools[/quote]
Jason mapped my 4.8IS which went to the Main Stealers for work and a diag and they were able to read that just fine....and no-one from there mentioned it being a tuned car....

We have the dealer tools and don't have any problems communicating with the cars after we have remapped them
We have had a good few that we have seen where the person who remapped them has used a different software or a tuned file that was made for a different car
With these cars we have had problems with communications with the dealer tools[/quote]
Jason mapped my 4.8IS which went to the Main Stealers for work and a diag and they were able to read that just fine....and no-one from there mentioned it being a tuned car....
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