Steering Wheel Judder under braking

Giblets · Post by **Giblets** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:17 pm

Hi all,

Just starting to notice some steering wheel judder under mid to heavy braking.

Would this be the pads, discs, or either that need looking at?

Any idea on costs from a local specialists for the diagnosed job?

Thanks

dirtymonkey29 · Post by **dirtymonkey29** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:28 pm

Suspension arm bushes usually lower arms

x555 · Post by **x555** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:33 pm

Plus one

UrbanFlow · Post by **UrbanFlow** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:34 pm

Hi Giblets, I had the same problem.
My brake pads were low (warning on dash) and my discs worn so I had them changed - they also changed the off side steering hub assembly as it had play in it.
Brakes are awesome now and no judder.
Total cost: Â£567 at my local independent.

Giblets · Post by **Giblets** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:52 am

Thanks all.
No worning lights on dash so could be the suspension arm bushes I guess?
Will ask garage to look when it's MOT'd.
If suspension arm bushes would this be an MOT fail point?

UrbanFlow · Post by **UrbanFlow** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:32 am

[quote=""Giblets""]Thanks all.
No worning lights on dash so could be the suspension arm bushes I guess?
Will ask garage to look when it's MOT'd.
If suspension arm bushes would this be an MOT fail point?[/quote]

If the bushes are not too bad, they will come up as an advisory note.
If well worn - then fail.

Smeeagain · Post by **Smeeagain** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:42 pm

I've had this issue - didn't come up at MOT yest the shudder is awful (under braking around 60mph). Pads and discs are new. Wheels are balanced. No-one - Indy BMW even Kwikfit can find the issue

Giblets · Post by **Giblets** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:09 pm

Tempted to just punt it though its MOT on Monday and hope for the best then.

Can really do without a massive bill at this time of year obviously!

dirtymonkey29 · Post by **dirtymonkey29** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:18 pm

Wouldn't trust kwik fit to clean my windows!!!! Even the tiniest bit of play will translate on the road as a massive judder when braking forces are applied, your trying to stop a bid heavy machine quickly. If your suspension arms are new(ish) and were changed by a garage I would suggest they haven't been torqued up under load which is essential not to wear the bush out rapidly. Also quality parts make a massive difference over cheap pattern parts. I'd recommend lemforder. I learnt all this the hard way so hope it's of some help to you.

Powercat · Post by **Powercat** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:45 pm

[quote=""dirtymonkey29""]Wouldn't trust kwik fit to clean my windows!!!! .[/quote]

I completely agree

kwik fit..... up

Smeeagain · Post by **Smeeagain** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:16 am

i meant to say that BMW Indy and Kwik fit CANT find the problem. I don't trust kwik fit either but they're often handy for a quick and free diagnosis as you can usually just drop in unlike BMW who will arrange you an appointment (and usually charge to inspect the vehicle)

x555 · Post by **x555** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:14 pm

[quote=""smeeagain""]I don't trust kwik fit either but they're often handy for a quick and free diagnosis [/quote]
Which would be useless if you don't trust them.....free though

Smeeagain · Post by **Smeeagain** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:45 am

I mean I don't trust them to do the work. Their diagnosis is usually sound though or at least to back up as a second opinion.and its free. And then I get it done somewhere else

Giblets · Post by **Giblets** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:47 am

Just rang my local specialist who thinks it might be an unbalanced wheel, which would make sense as I had 4 tyres changed last week and heard a clunk as I was driving away. Must have been one of the balancing weghts letting go!

x555 · Post by **x555** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:40 pm

[quote=""Giblets""]Just rang my local specialist who thinks it might be an unbalanced wheel, which would make sense as I had 4 tyres changed last week and heard a clunk as I was driving away. Must have been one of the balancing weghts letting go![/quote]
Hopefully it is and will be a cheap simple fix

but if it was a wheel balance issue i would have thought that it would be doing it all the time not just under braking.
You didn't have them balanced at kwick fit did you lol....sorry smee couldn't resist

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