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3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by shadrack » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:40 pm

[quote=""dirtymonkey29""]Is LPG/petrol/diesel the new religion?[/quote]
yes it is! unless u want some nissan leaf sheds to take over the world!! nnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by dirtymonkey29 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:34 pm

I saw a renault wind today.,. Trouble with these "Eco friendly" electric cars is the power that it takes to charge them comes from power stations, plus the range and time it takes to charge them

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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by Turks » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:23 am

Compressed Air is the way forward. Problem is you run out of it too quickly!


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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by shadrack » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:09 pm

[quote=""dirtymonkey29""]I saw a renault wind today.,. Trouble with these "Eco friendly" electric cars is the power that it takes to charge them comes from power stations, plus the range and time it takes to charge them[/quote]
p.s renault winds are petrol!! :D
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3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by dirtymonkey29 » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:39 pm

Yeah, I was thinking of that electric car with a similar sort of Eco name that i can't think of right now haha

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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by shadrack » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:09 pm

i have a good name for all electric cars.....sh*t. if ur a treehugger google drax power station!!
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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by roofer » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:28 pm

I had my x5 4.4 converted to lpg last July and so far have covered 36000 trouble free miles at 30mpg . The conversion cost £1850 which is more than offset by the savings .

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Post by lezmtaylor » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:31 am

[quote=""roofer""]I had my x5 4.4 converted to lpg last July and so far have covered 36000 trouble free miles at 30mpg . The conversion cost £1850 which is more than offset by the savings .[/quote]

With respect do you mean 2010 or 2011 !!!!!!!!!!

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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by Powercat » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:22 pm

My experience with LPG on a Mercedes estate is ther is not much difference in the running cost on diesel or LPG,
The diesel does more per litre then LPG but LPG is cheap, so it generally all balances out.
LPG can be difficult to find, the fuel tank is often small and depending on the car and installation there is a greater risk of fire in a collision

My support for diesel, you could find your fuel anywhere, the range on my X is 500+ miles,diesel engines are very reliable and robust
and tend to last a lot longer than a petrol engine before needing a rebuilt, modern diesel engines have great performance,
the vehicle will hold its value much better.

Lots of talk these days about hydrogen cars, but that's a conversation for another year ;)
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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by Mrgee » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:59 pm

[quote=""Powercat""]

Lots of talk these days about hydrogen cars, but that's a conversation for another year ;)[/quote]

More like decade :rofl: :rofl:

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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by lezmtaylor » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:22 am

[quote=""Powercat""]My experience with LPG on a Mercedes estate is ther is not much difference in the running cost on diesel or LPG,
The diesel does more per litre then LPG but LPG is cheap, so it generally all balances out.
LPG can be difficult to find, the fuel tank is often small and depending on the car and installation there is a greater risk of fire in a collision

My support for diesel, you could find your fuel anywhere, the range on my X is 500+ miles,diesel engines are very reliable and robust
and tend to last a lot longer than a petrol engine before needing a rebuilt, modern diesel engines have great performance,
the vehicle will hold its value much better.

Lots of talk these days about hydrogen cars, but that's a conversation for another year ;)[/quote]

The statement that ''there is a greater risk of fire in a collision'', is blatently untrue, see earlier posts,

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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by Neil48is » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:32 pm

[quote=""lezmtaylor""][quote=""Powercat""]My experience with LPG on a Mercedes estate is ther is not much difference in the running cost on diesel or LPG,
The diesel does more per litre then LPG but LPG is cheap, so it generally all balances out.
LPG can be difficult to find, the fuel tank is often small and depending on the car and installation there is a greater risk of fire in a collision

My support for diesel, you could find your fuel anywhere, the range on my X is 500+ miles,diesel engines are very reliable and robust
and tend to last a lot longer than a petrol engine before needing a rebuilt, modern diesel engines have great performance,
the vehicle will hold its value much better.

Lots of talk these days about hydrogen cars, but that's a conversation for another year ;)[/quote]

The statement that ''there is a greater risk of fire in a collision'', is blatently untrue, see earlier posts,

Lez[/quote]

Too true Lez,have you seen the video of the tests they did on the strength and integrity of car LPG tanks !!!!!

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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by Powercat » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:54 pm

:? Come on guys I used the word depending, it's clearly there in the sentence :o (depending on the car and installation)
On the other hand maybe you believe that any PLG installation is safe, think again and look at these two links.

LPG Car Fire Tests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBXS21uh6lc

LPG car explodes as driver lights cigarette
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/332 ... rette.html

Before this turns into a full scale argument, I'm sure if you have a proper conversion done and it is fully tested regularly, then you will probably be okay.
But if you are buying one that has been done by someone else, watch out and have it checked properly before you purchase :driving:
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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by Turks » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:25 am

I'm not going to get into an argument about this because I don't have enough info on it...

All i'll say is that I very much doubt there is a greater risk of fire in a collision. A standard fuel tank would fail before an LPG tank and LPG tanks are basically mini pressure vessels so would withstand a great deal of force. A rear collision in an X5 you would be hard pushed to damage the wheel well - and if you did it would probably spit the LPG tank out into the boot space.


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Re: 3 litre diesel Vs V8 on LPG - discuss

Post by gchristofi » Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:54 am

Just to be pedantic and based on no knowledge whatsoever.......... a car with both petrol tank AND lpg tank has to be at slightly higher risk of fire/explosion, even if it's marginal. Wouldn't put me off though... still thinking about doing this 3 years in!

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