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				cooa99
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Tyre advice needed urgently
Sorry to bring another tyre question up. but I am now in an urgent need of new tyres all round. Last weekend I saw the tread showing through on one of the tyres!. My indecisions has left me with an unsafe car.
On My E53 3.0D I have 255/50 R19 for the fronts and 285/45 R19 for the rears. I have (and always used for the last 12yrs) the * Rated Michelin Diamaris which are now no longer in production.
It also appears that there are no longer any more * Rated tyres or branding in production so the advice to use BMW * rated tyre no longer holds.
After a few online tyre sites searches, the brand and models below are coming up as options :-
Avon Zx7
Michelin Latitude Sports 3
Toyo Proces Sport
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Kumho Crugen HP91
Nankang Surpax SP-5
My initial thoughts are on the 1st three above. Please what are you guys using at the moment?. Your thoughts and advice highly appreciated
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						On My E53 3.0D I have 255/50 R19 for the fronts and 285/45 R19 for the rears. I have (and always used for the last 12yrs) the * Rated Michelin Diamaris which are now no longer in production.
It also appears that there are no longer any more * Rated tyres or branding in production so the advice to use BMW * rated tyre no longer holds.
After a few online tyre sites searches, the brand and models below are coming up as options :-
Avon Zx7
Michelin Latitude Sports 3
Toyo Proces Sport
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Kumho Crugen HP91
Nankang Surpax SP-5
My initial thoughts are on the 1st three above. Please what are you guys using at the moment?. Your thoughts and advice highly appreciated
Thanks
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
Plenty of run flat types at these sizes, but that may not be what you want.  I used them with no issue on my E53.  It made the ride just a tad harder but that didn’t bother me.
I suppose the shift to RFT/SSR types has finally caught up with other types. BMW advised me to start looking at MOE marked tyres (Mercedes Original - Extended) as BMW are using these as well. I can’t get winter tyres for the staggered X6 set as the size has gone end of life for the rear pair across all usable brands.
I have also used MO marked as well.
			
			
									
						
			I suppose the shift to RFT/SSR types has finally caught up with other types. BMW advised me to start looking at MOE marked tyres (Mercedes Original - Extended) as BMW are using these as well. I can’t get winter tyres for the staggered X6 set as the size has gone end of life for the rear pair across all usable brands.
I have also used MO marked as well.
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
Yes I did see a few run flats as well. I have always found the 3.0D sport suspension  not particularly a comfortable ride so using run flats will probably just make the ride worse  .... which could easily be in my head. Also I am averaging 600 motorway miles weekly so not sure how much drop in mpg that's going to be on the current 30mgp.
			
			
									
						
			
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
Switching to RFT made no difference on the E53 in the year after I fitted the tyres before it was sold.
Mine only had rear-air (not by choice but because I had a tow-bar) but no idea if that would make a difference but I thought I’d mention it.
I think I used Bridgestone Duellers - they came off the X6 as the I used the wheels for the fitting of the winter set and they were delivery mileage only. Having had both Dunlop and Bridgestone on the X6, the latter lasted a lot longer - about 22,000 miles I think. I’m now using Conti’s.
			
			
									
						
			Mine only had rear-air (not by choice but because I had a tow-bar) but no idea if that would make a difference but I thought I’d mention it.
I think I used Bridgestone Duellers - they came off the X6 as the I used the wheels for the fitting of the winter set and they were delivery mileage only. Having had both Dunlop and Bridgestone on the X6, the latter lasted a lot longer - about 22,000 miles I think. I’m now using Conti’s.
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
Hi to be able to run the runflats you will need wheels with H2+ on so later wheels for the E53 that fit are BMW X6 E71 but require spigot rings for the front wheels as the X6 run a different set up front to back 74.1 pcd front 72.6 pcd rear , also if it is a sport version you need the M sport 19" alloys , as the offset is different and as I found out the Se wheels catch the rear inner arch so scrub the tyres . 
If you find some give me a message & I will tell you if they will fit . Also none staggered wheels would fit et48 front and rear 9 x 19 " .
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						If you find some give me a message & I will tell you if they will fit . Also none staggered wheels would fit et48 front and rear 9 x 19 " .
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
Forgot to say that the H2+ wheels have an inner bead that the runflats lock into so that they dont come off when punctured or cracked the standard wheels dont have that .
			
			
									
						
			
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
Thanks for the run flat info.
This means that the runflats are not an option then if i have to start trying to sort new wheels as well.
			
			
									
						
			
						This means that the runflats are not an option then if i have to start trying to sort new wheels as well.
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
Yes that's the problem, although they are easily sourced I have a set for sale! You are best knowing than spending the money on tyres having an accident then finding out.  
I run Vredestein wintrac winter tyres on mine no problem, unfortunately the manufacturers have the tyres at different specs so even the same size can be 70 mm difference in height.
			
			
									
						
			
						I run Vredestein wintrac winter tyres on mine no problem, unfortunately the manufacturers have the tyres at different specs so even the same size can be 70 mm difference in height.
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
Costco are doing some deals on the michellins at the moment , so will pop in to night to see what they have on offer.
I am leaning towrds the Avon and the michelins. only issue is that their speed rating are not the same as my diamaris
			
			
									
						
			
						I am leaning towrds the Avon and the michelins. only issue is that their speed rating are not the same as my diamaris
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
You need V or W because the car’s top speed is above H (130mph) even if you will never use it.  V is 149 and W is 168.  Z if you can find it it 150+.
The weight rating is the one you can’t go below whatever is on the pressure plate on the B-pillar. You can safely go higher though - say 111 instead of 107.
I couldn’t find the 285/45 tyres 19” in Costco’s lists when I checked
The X6 is fitted with Y rated (186mph) tyres and that’s more than 30mph above what the 40d is capable of! I suppose there is logic for it, but all I can think of is torque delivery might shred the tread?
			
			
									
						
			The weight rating is the one you can’t go below whatever is on the pressure plate on the B-pillar. You can safely go higher though - say 111 instead of 107.
I couldn’t find the 285/45 tyres 19” in Costco’s lists when I checked

The X6 is fitted with Y rated (186mph) tyres and that’s more than 30mph above what the 40d is capable of! I suppose there is logic for it, but all I can think of is torque delivery might shred the tread?
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
I went into costco last night they have Michelin latitude sports 3  for both front and rear  111W
All 4 woking out at £560 which include s £100 discount.
I have also checked the website an the 285/45 R19's are there. Search by size rather than by registration and it should show up
			
			
									
						
			
						All 4 woking out at £560 which include s £100 discount.
I have also checked the website an the 285/45 R19's are there. Search by size rather than by registration and it should show up
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
unfortunately , costco don't  have the correct tyres for the front so I had to buy all 4 elsewhere for £660.
It is slightly quieter than the Diamaris. My main issue is a slight road noise/ feeling of vibration when accelerating from rest, This happens between 10-15mph and quickly disappears
			
			
									
						
			
						It is slightly quieter than the Diamaris. My main issue is a slight road noise/ feeling of vibration when accelerating from rest, This happens between 10-15mph and quickly disappears
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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently
I did away with staggered wheels a long time ago.
Mine has matching rear wheels all round.
30mm spacers on rear, 10mm spacers at front,
& I pulled the strut tops in 20mm each side also, to level the wheel camber to zero.
This has stopped the front outer edge scrub, & the vehicle drives as if its on rails now.
Tyres are 285 x 45 x 19 all round.
			
			
									
						
			
						Mine has matching rear wheels all round.
30mm spacers on rear, 10mm spacers at front,
& I pulled the strut tops in 20mm each side also, to level the wheel camber to zero.
This has stopped the front outer edge scrub, & the vehicle drives as if its on rails now.
Tyres are 285 x 45 x 19 all round.
 
							