Kitchen concrete floor.

[Mpower]

Hi all,

Just started to rip old kitchen out and wanting to tile the floor,the question is do I put down some kind of insulation on the cold concrete floor before tiling?

Mpower

Update:

Was meant to update this thread awhile back,well here it is laid underfloor heating as suggested by fellow members and the wife is happy as can be,many thanks all!

[sid10]

Has it a damp course ? I once laid a tiled floor on concrete , next day they had all lifted up .
Check first if it has a damp course , if not I would think about laying something else ( I put down water resistant laminate with a foil backed underlay ) 6 years on still as good as new , no grout to bother with and warm on your feet !

[Steamyrotter]

If you are re-concreting it then probably underneath the screed layer..
If not then there may end up too much movement to guarantee the tile staying put as the insulation will be spongey in comparison....

However saying that look into how the Americans do it.. as i believe they insulate and then put a layer of board down.
Ply or heavy duty backer board i think....

Youtube it..

[Mpower]

[quote="sid10"]
Has it a damp course ? I once laid a tiled floor on concrete , next day they had all lifted up .
Check first if it has a damp course , if not I would think about laying something else ( I put down water resistant laminate with a foil backed underlay ) 6 years on still as good as new , no grout to bother with and warm on your feet !
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It has a damp course but just wanted a warm floor to walk on and the missus wants a tiled floor can't have both without a thick insulating layer.

[Mpower]

[quote="Steamyrotter"]
If you are re-concreting it then probably underneath the screed layer..
If not then there may end up too much movement to guarantee the tile staying put as the insulation will be spongey in comparison....

However saying that look into how the Americans do it.. as i believe they insulate and then put a layer of board down.
Ply or heavy duty backer board i think....

Youtube it..
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Will have a look but it may raise the floor too much?

[Steamyrotter]

You could always put that undertile heating kit in the tile fix layer..

[pcdee]

[quote="Steamyrotter"]
You could always put that undertile heating kit in the tile fix layer..
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That's what I did on the ground floor as it's a concrete.

If your doing it make sure you use flexible adhesive.......expensive stuff but well worth it.  I done mine about 8 years back and still looking great.

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[kjb1]

We have karndean flooring, warm underfoot and rock solid.


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[Turks]

[quote="Mpower"]
It has a damp course but just wanted a warm floor to walk on and the missus wants a tiled floor can't have both without a thick insulating layer.
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As others have said, install a U/F Heating Kit for the space. I used a loose wire kit and laid it out myself. I then poured a 2-3mm layer of self levelling screed over the top to keep the wires in place, but to also make sure that the tiler didn't snag any of the wires when applying the tile adhesive. Great under foot, but costs a bit to run.

...or wear slippers.


Turks.

[kena]

[quote="kjb1"]
We have karndean flooring, warm underfoot and rock solid.


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Excellent stuff..

[Mars]

Karndean is your friend here - agree with other ops. Can't go wrong.