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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by celica » Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:38 pm

£1k was quoting for 20"
315 35 20 rear are £250-300 each

275 40 20 I think front in same brand are £200-250 region

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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by X5Sport » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:15 pm

I had a full set of OEM type Bridgestone RFT 20" last Autumn for £800.  Well worth shopping around.  BMW wanted nearly £1,600 a set!
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by BullyB » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:32 am

Some prices I got recently for 20's
Fronts 275/40R20    Rears 315/35R20

Michelin Latitude Sport 3 Non-Runflat
My Tyres £847.50 including mobile fitting.
Black Circles £815.14 including fitting
Pneus £829.24 including mobile fitting
Camskill can do delivered for £788.86

Michelin Latitude Sport 3 Runflat
Fronts 275/40R20            £343.00 per tyre fully fitted including VAT
Rears 315/35R20              £425.00 per tyre fully fitted including VAT

Worth shopping around but when I called a couple of suppliers they said Latitude 3's are on back order. I expect to get mine late March/early April
I ended up paying £900 fully fitted as I wanted to use my local, trusted supplier/fitter. They also already have my summer wheels in storage, which helps.
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by X5Sport » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:54 pm

Also look at Tyreleader co uk
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by Horizon » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:33 pm

I wonder why  the E53 wasn't as fussy as The E70 on tyres, and the X3 is even more problematic with tyres.
They say cars are designed for a global market, it's very difficult to obtain star marked  Runflats at short notice in the UK, how the hell do they manage in Africa and Australia.
Is this why the Landcruiser is the weapon of choice in these Countries?
I would love another X5 (E70 This time ) but Ive had a couple of Beemers with Runflats and can't wait to shed them soon after ownership, but have to think twice now if transmission failure is a real risk.
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by boy2k » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:09 am

I would not recomend non * tyres.
My friend had an X6 with the AC Schnitzer 22" wheels they made for the X6M.

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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by I_sohi » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:43 pm

I live in Birmingham and will get my X5 soon. I have 320d but never changed to winter tyres. Could I just use the tyres I get with BMW all year along?
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by X5Sport » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:56 pm

Absolutely fine  :)

My commute involves roads that get very icy and the winter wheels are much better and provide greater grip - especially considering the wide tread on these cars wheels.

I put mine on once the average temps get down to around 7°C and remove them once frosts finish and it starts to warm up again.  BMW store my 'off car' set for £45 a year, and do a free 90-minute safety check every time they swap them over.

I have set for the Skoda as well, and do those myself.
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by BullyB » Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:45 am

[quote="I_sohi"]
I live in Birmingham and will get my X5 soon. I have 320d but never changed to winter tyres. Could I just use the tyres I get with BMW all year along?
Sorry for asking a naive question!
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No law in the UK stating that you have to use seasonal tyres.
In Germany for example you have to have winter tyres on from October to Easter.

I personally think the winter tyres are great and you can feel the difference in the very cold and snow. They are not snow tyres however, just give a bit more grip.
Probably not worth it if you do city driving but we are out in the sticks and go up to Scotland often.

Not too expensive if you consider you are splitting the wear between two sets. My local garage swap and store mine for £30 a year.
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by JF1980 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:30 am

So if the drivechain is so sensitive that having different tread depths on the same axle or having non* marked tyres can wreck it in a matter of days/weeks of normal use how safe is it to use the space saver spare tyre?  Could conceivably have to drive a hundreds of miles on it if you get caught with a flat somewhere in Europe on a bank holiday.
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by gmc15 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:45 am

What if you get a non repairable puncture on a half worn tyre and you have to replace it with a new tyre? You would have a tyre with full tread on one side of the axle and a half worn tyre on the other side. Would you need to but 2 x new tyres?
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by philzx3 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:48 am

you dont have to have * rated its just a con.  I spoke to mitchelin technical guys and asked about my concerns regard this issue and as long as you have all the same make and type of fitted all round there is no problems.
Problems arise when mixing paterns or makes as they all have different compounds and thats the problem.

I recently replaced a full set of X3 non rft tyres for £420 and they were great.

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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by 99ron » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:06 pm

I 2nd that. On the 3rd set of non run-flats here on a 150K miles X5. No issues so far.
I always change all four together with same brand as the fronts aren't that far behind the rears for wear.
If the transmission goes then it will get fixed then sold as I can't live with this thing on runflats in the UK.
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by Horizon » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:21 pm

[quote="gmc15"]
What if you get a non repairable puncture on a half worn tyre and you have to replace it with a new tyre? You would have a tyre with full tread on one side of the axle and a half worn tyre on the other side. Would you need to but 2 x new tyres?
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Aparantly I was told it was less important about having different depth tyres on the same axle as the diff takes care of this, as it does when we turn a corner, the diff allows the inner wheel to turn less times than the outer wheel without straining anything.
I had a shogun years ago which had a diff lock on it and if you tried to steer with it on it still wanted to go straight ahead.
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Re: Non run-flat tyres

Post by X5Sport » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:02 am

Front to rear tread depth is the key one.  New tyres on one axle and well worn on the other is when the real trouble starts.

I always change as a set because mine have always worn almost equally on both the X5 and X6.  Never had more than 1mm difference front/rear whether Michelin, Pirelli, Dunlop or Bridgestone.
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