satnav in 2d only on 2005 dvd system

jalfonse · Post by **jalfonse** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:03 pm

I bought a 2010 map update disk together with the V32 update software and although it seemed to install correctly I have not been able to activate (or even find) the 3d or perspective view?, are their different versions of the V32 software or am I missing something else?

RichardP · Post by **RichardP** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:18 pm

First, enter the hidden Nav menu - go to Setup and press and hold the right controller for 10 seconds. Scroll down to the bottom of the first menu, change Perspective from No to Yes.

Second, while viewing the map click the right controller, select Map View, you should have 3 options, Pointing North, Direction of Travel and Perspective. Select the latter.

X5Sport · Post by **X5Sport** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:19 pm

Have you tried this proces:

1. Go into the 'Set' menu (press Menu) on the control unit.

2. Once in there press and hold the RHS menu button down for about 6-10secs.

3. You will then go into a special menu, where you can change the display to allow 'perspective' view.

4. Exit back out and and select 'Navigation' and display the map.

5. Change the map direction to perspective.

Hope this helps. I'm doing it from memory.

EDIT RichardP beat me to it.......

jalfonse · Post by **jalfonse** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:48 pm

Great that worked, thanks!

One other question, the system is supposed to be capable of 7 digit post codes but when I enter a post code into "city/PC" section of top level nav menu it gets up to the 5th digit and then stops and just shows available streets within that more general area?? Am I entering the post code in the right way?

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:13 pm

When you mention 7 digit post code, it most likely means you bought an illegal copy of the Nav disk as the OEM version can only support the 5.

I only buy, and the board only supports the purchase of, legal versions of the software which do not offer this option. I have heard that those copied disks use Points of Interest to get the full post code functionality.

BL02WAS · Post by **BL02WAS** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:14 pm

Oem is totally flawed in my eyes for 5 digit entry, very poor. Do not really see the point in limiting yourself to 5 digit just because you only buy oem?? Seems a bit daft in my eyes?? Taking the oem thing to the extreme a bit?? just my opinion however, but wouldn't hesitate to buy the updated maps disc when I need them off the company responsible for said CDs. The 2009 disc I have now works perfectly well, plus the added bonus of the firmware update all for Â£20, bargain compared to the stealers!!!

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:24 pm

I am sure there are cheaper / better options, but as they are illegal copies they are bound to be cheaper.

It is different if you have an OEM disk and you alter it to do whatever you want for your personal use. But if you then sell the altered version (copies) to others, then it becomes illegal. Not much different from bootleg DVDs or music.

From an legal exposure point of view, we (the admin team) can not endorse copied versions.

X5Sport · Post by **X5Sport** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:28 pm

[quote=""pvr""]I am sure there are cheaper / better options, but as they are illegal copies they are bound to be cheaper.

It is different if you have an OEM disk and you alter it to do whatever you want for your personal use. But if you then sell the altered version (copies) to others, then it becomes illegal. Not much different from bootleg DVDs or music.

From an legal exposure point of view, we (the admin team) can not endorse copied versions.[/quote]

Here, here.

I can see why people do it, but it still isn't right. Personally I would hate a cheap copy, or a self made backup that might have an unknown error in it to incapacitate an expensive system to fix for just a few Â£Â£s saved.

That being said, I thought there was a way of getting OEM discs to work with full UK postcodes. Can't remember where I came across it but I'll have a deep think.....might be a while then..

X5Sport · Post by **X5Sport** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:39 pm

REMOVED. Link apparently for non-OEM discs.

CondorX5 · Post by **CondorX5** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:41 pm

I enquired after an update OEM disc for my 2006 disc and the dealer wanted over Â£200

You can buy two fully functional TomToms for that, which are not just fully up to date, but also allow full 7 digit postcode...... It is completely daft that BMW can't be bothered, or just plain won't, enable 7 digit postcode updates for the E53s and all the millions of other BMWs that use the same system - the technology is now very cheap and accessible and sold in even cr"Â£py cheapie cars, so why should BMW drivers not be able to access it?? I agree about not buying illegal copied stuff, but if the company refuses to supply what the customers want, they have every right to find it elsewhere........
I may even pay the Â£200 ridiculous price if I can get full functionality of the satnav....... not every address can be found using the old street and town method and five digit postcodes are extremely limiting - I have found the Xes satnav really frustrating because of this, its such a complex car, why does it have to have a rubbish satnav? The software to update it isn't rocket science, and BMW could easily supply it, but choose only to provide massively overpriced map updates which still don't give the functionality of a Â£100 Tomtom..

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:01 pm

Â£99 from dealer if you trade in your old one.

BL02WAS · Post by **BL02WAS** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:04 pm

[quote=""X5Sport""][quote=""pvr""]I am sure there are cheaper / better options, but as they are illegal copies they are bound to be cheaper.

It is different if you have an OEM disk and you alter it to do whatever you want for your personal use. But if you then sell the altered version (copies) to others, then it becomes illegal. Not much different from bootleg DVDs or music.

From an legal exposure point of view, we (the admin team) can not endorse copied versions.[/quote]

Here, here.

I can see why people do it, but it still isn't right. Personally I would hate a cheap copy, or a self made backup that might have an unknown error in it to incapacitate an expensive system to fix for just a few Â£Â£s saved.

That being said, I thought there was a way of getting OEM discs to work with full UK postcodes. Can't remember where I came across it but I'll have a deep think.....might be a while then..

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"you would hate"???? You have lost me there, as there is no difference atall in what you see on your screen?? And with regards to bugs errors??? It's a read only disc which holds a map? What exactly do you guys think is going to go wrong with them? appreciate board etc not condoning it for legal reasons but seriously you guys are crazy if you pay Â£200 for a cd from BMW!! It's obsurd, and looking at the 7 digit entry above, that is if you have the illegal version. Standard won't let you do that. Bootleg DVDs etc being likened to this is bit off also, bootlegs are filmed in a cinema with a can corder and of terrible quality, these CDs are the total opposite, you guys are whiter than white, next you will be telling us you never ever go over 70mph when on motorway......if you have such high regards for other laws then you must play it right across the board yes???

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:24 pm

We can't be sued for motorway speeding, but we can for this

Remember that BMW shut X5World site down due to copyright.

X5Sport · Post by **X5Sport** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:34 pm

Use of the word 'hate' in this case is nothing more than a common turn of phrase with regard to having a non-OEM disc cause a non recoverable failure of the Satnav System so requiring Dealer assistance at a cost (local to me) of at least Â£140 an hour.

It is always possible that an error in the datastream, or a deliberate inclusion for that matter, disabled part or all of the hardware. The risk may be low, but it's there and the risk increases if you don't know the provenance of the source used. But then as in all things, you pay your money and make your choice. As someone who works in the IT industry I know just how easy it is to drop an unwanted but carefully crafted payload into valid data prior to the disc being generated regardless of it being on read-only media, or any other form of media. Let's face it, that's why most of us have some form if virus defence on our PCs. They carry a far higher risk admittedly, but the point is the same.

As my post said, I understand people who do it and why. I have no issue with people using a non-OEM disc as it's their car and their choice. I just don't do it myself and therefore concur with the sentiments of the Admin Team that it should not be condoned. Use of 'non-OEM provided' discs also increases the costs to those who do follow the legitimate route. In case of a query about Legitimate', I mean discs or data in whatever form that have been provided by either BMW, the mapping data Owner or one of their approved distribution channels or reseller channels.

My OEM discs have only ever been Â£99 as I trade in the old one. I dread to think what the updates for CIC based iDrive system will be, but that is part of the ownership. Maybe I've been lucky in that the OS updates have been provided FOC by my dealer too - I don't know if that's supposed to be 'chargeable event'?

But we're getting a little off topic. The answer unfortunately (and shortsightedly by BMW) is that they chose not to support 7-digit postcodes for the MkIV system and possibly other versions. The CIC system is good enough to get me to the right house - but then I'm sending the data to the car from Google Maps.

phill · Post by **phill** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:26 pm

Should be glad you don't have the new system were the dealer has to update the hard drive, they are charging $465 in America.

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