Sytner BMW - Advice on price asked for these 2 X5s

[hmpmarketing]

Hi guys,

Still going about a search for my X5. Spoke with a rep from Sytner today (very friendly) and mentioned I was looking for a X5, 2012. He sent me the specs for these 2, one is a 2011 40d and another 2012 30d.

I have attached the vehicle details he sent me, need advice on asking price. both are on for 35,850

2011 http://www.hmp-media.com/X5_2011.pdf
2012 http://www.hmp-media.com/X5_2012.pdf

What do you guys think?

[X5Sport]

40d is the better drive and that one gas Comfort Seats too which are definitely worth having.  Both are good cars though.

No Nav listed.....not sure if it's included in the 'Media Package' or not.

Some on here don't find the M Sport suspension a pleasant ride so you need to drive both versions and then decide if you can live with the 'crashy' ride.

Richard

[hmpmarketing]

[quote="X5Sport"]
40d is the better drive and that one gas Comfort Seats too which are definitely worth having.  Both are good cars though.

No Nav listed.....not sure if it's included in the 'Media Package' or not.

Some on here don't find the M Sport suspension a pleasant ride so you need to drive both versions and then decide if you can live with the 'crashy' ride.

Richard
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Hi Richard,

Looking between the two I would agree the 40d is a better drive as well as feature wise, specially comfort seats. My only complaint, it is a 2011, was really looking for 2012 model but perhaps I can live with that.

With that said, the asking price of 35K is it reasonable? Should I aim for a 10-15% off this?

Yours and everyone's feedback is really appreciated

Kind Regards

Herick

[X5Sport]

As it's a BMW Dealer it's always worth trying to talk them down as they will have put £2-4k on the price.

The differences in the model year will be minor and are mostly to do with the entertainment system which was updated in April 2011.  Only minor changes in the functions so worth getting the 'build sheet' for both.  Dealer will be able to do this in a couple of minutes.  Then you can see exactly what is on each car.

Richard

[hmpmarketing]

[quote="X5Sport"]
As it's a BMW Dealer it's always worth trying to talk them down as they will have put £2-4k on the price.

The differences in the model year will be minor and are mostly to do with the entertainment system which was updated in April 2011.  Only minor changes in the functions so worth getting the 'build sheet' for both.  Dealer will be able to do this in a couple of minutes.  Then you can see exactly what is on each car.

Richard
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thanks again Richard, great to have you around man!

If it was you, would you go with a BMW dealer (like Sytner) or a non bmw dealer? I have my eyes on another BMW, same price, less mileage and more specs (like HUD) and it is a 2012 model. Wondering if there is any advantage on buying from a bmw dealer (AUC warranty for 12 months) vs warranty from a non bmw dealer

I have emailed the rep just now asking for the build sheet to compare.

[X5Sport]

Main Dealer every time.  Too many non-franchise dealers are way to happy to sell anything on, even with major problems and then you find the warranty is worthless.

That's not to say some BMW Dealerships don't let the side down, but the AUC Warranty is generally worth having and you can play hardball if there are issues.

Richard

[hmpmarketing]

[quote="X5Sport"]
Main Dealer every time.  Too many non-franchise dealers are way to happy to sell anything on, even with major problems and then you find the warranty is worthless.

That's not to say some BMW Dealerships don't let the side down, but the AUC Warranty is generally worth having and you can play hardball if there are issues.

Richard
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Dealer in question is Sytner. Have heard good things about them, so hopefully I will be lucky.

Spoke with seller and the 2011 model I may be interested on is all the way up in Sheffield (I live south). Agreed to find a similar 40d to test drive next week to get a feel for the car. If I like, upon negotiation would  be bringing the car down to Sunningdale and if everything is fine, seal the deal.

Is this standard procedure?

[squeaky2]

HUD display is great, Professional Audio system is good too.  Bought mine through Sytner in cardiff and have no complaints about them.  Did go and pick it up though.

Was originally dealing with a BMW dealer in croydon and they said that if i found one i was interested in elsewhere they would get hold of it for me.  Was never sure i would get the best deal that way though.

[hmpmarketing]

[quote="squeaky2"]
HUD display is great, Professional Audio system is good too.  Bought mine through Sytner in cardiff and have no complaints about them.  Did go and pick it up though.

Was originally dealing with a BMW dealer in croydon and they said that if i found one i was interested in elsewhere they would get hold of it for me.  Was never sure i would get the best deal that way though.
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Hmm interesting, perhaps they would jack up the price that way

Hard to find one with HUD to be honest

[535dboy]

That 40d all the way

Lovely colour combo and much better engine

[hmpmarketing]

[quote="535dboy"]
That 40d all the way

Lovely colour combo and much better engine
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Hi 535dboy, thanks for your feedback

yea, but feature wise it seems to lack loads of things, not sure if it would be worth because of the better engine?

Edit: my bad, actually the 40d seems to have more features apart from the year. Im waiting for the build sheet to compare

[535dboy]

Wouldn't let the year put you off for the sake of the better car.

I reckon that could be snapped up quick that one!

[hmpmarketing]

[quote="535dboy"]
Wouldn't let the year put you off for the sake of the better car.

I reckon that could be snapped up quick that one!
[/quote]

Would you think so? Just got the build sheet for it:

Code Sonderausstattung Optional Equipment
S1CAA
Selektion COP relevanter Fahrzeuge Selection of COP relevant vehicles
S1CBA
CO2 Umfang CO2 package
S220A
Niveauregulierung Self-levelling suspension
S226A
Sportliche Fahrwerksabstimmung Sports suspension settings
S230A
Zusatzumfang EU-spezifisch Extra package, EU-specific
S2NYA
BMW LM Rad M Doppelspeiche 333 BMW LA wheel, M Double Spoke 333
S2PAA
Radschraubensicherung Lug bolt retainer
S302A
Alarmanlage Alarm system
S316A
Automatische Heckklappenbetätigung automatic trunk lid mechanism
P337A
M Sportpaket M Sports package
S3AHA
Rückfahrkamera und Top View Backup camera and Top View
S3MCA
Individual Dachreling Hochgl Shadow Line Indiv. roof rail high-gloss Shadow Line
S423A
Fussmatten Velours Floor mats, velours
S428A
Warndreieck und Verbandstasche Warning triangle and first aid kit
S430A
Innen-/Aussensp. mit Abblendautomatik Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S431A
Innenspiegel automatisch abblendend Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S441A
Raucherpaket Smoker package
S456A
Komfortsitz mit Memory Comfort seat with memory
S488A
Lordosenstütze Fahrer u. Beifahrer Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S494A
Sitzheizung Fahrer/Beifahrer Seat heating driver/passenger
S4AZA
Edelholzausführung Bambusmaser dunkel Fine-wood trim bamboo grain dark
S4NCA
Zusatzheizung/-lüftung Additional heating/ventilation
S4UBA
3. Sitzreihe 3rd seat row
S502A
Scheinwerferreinigungsanlage Headlight cleaning system
S508A
Park Distance Control (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC)
S521A
Regensensor Rain sensor
S522A
Xenon-Licht Xenon Light
S534A
Klimaautomatik Automatic air conditioning
S544A
Geschwindigkeitsregelung mit Bremsfunkt. Cruise control with brake function
S563A
Lichtpaket Light package
S575A
Zusätzliche 12V-Steckdosen Supplementary 12V sockets
S5ACA
Fernlichtassistent High-beam assistant
S5DAA
Deaktivierung Airbag Beifahrer Passenger airbag deactivation
S609A
Navigationssystem Professional Navigation system Professional
S612A
BMW Assist BMW Assist
S615A
Erweiterte BMW Online Information Expanded BMW Online Information
S616A
BMW Online BMW Online
S620A
Spracheingabe Voice control
S633A
Vorbereitung Handy Business Preparation, mobile phone, Business
S654A
DAB-Tuner Radio Bavaria C III
S676A
HiFi Lautsprechersystem HiFi speaker system
S694A
Vorbereitung BMW 6 CD Wechsler Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer
S698A
Area-Code 2 für DVD Area-Code 2 for DVD
S6AAA
BMW TeleServices BMW TeleServices
S6ABA
Steuerung Teleservices Control for Teleservices
S6FLA
USB-/Audio-Schnittstelle USB/Audio interface
S6VCA
Steuerung Combox Control for Combox
S710A
M Lederlenkrad M leather steering wheel
S760A
Hochglanz Shadow-Line High gloss shadow line
S761A
Individual Sonnenschutzverglasung Individual sunshade glazing
S775A
Dachhimmel anthrazit Headlining anthracite
S7M5A
M Exterieurumfänge M Exterior equipment
L812A
Länderausführung England / Irland NATIONAL VERSION GREAT BRITAIN
S840A
Hochgeschwindigkeitsabstimmung High speed synchronisation
S877A
Entfall Überkreuzbedienung Delete cross-pattern operation
S880A
Bordliteratur englisch On-board vehicle literature English
S8KAA
Ölwartungsinterval 30.000km/24Monate Oil-maintenance interval - 24 months/30,000 km
S8S2A
Codierung Alarmsignal Coding alarm signal
S8SCA
Freischaltung Telematik länderspez. Telematics access request,country-spec.
S8SMA
Fahrgestellnummer von aussen sichtbar Car ident. number visible from outside
S8TGA
Diebstahlsicherung Thiefproofing device
S8TLA
Tagfahrlicht Front und Hech aktiv
S8TNA
Tagfahrlicht über Lichtmenü
S925A
Versandschutzpaket Transport protection package


What do you guys think? Price wise? Missing any important features?

[X5Sport]

Pretty good if that's the 40d?  It has got the full nav.

Can't see 6NF or 6NR?  You have 6FL which will give you a USB socket in the centre console.  You won't get music artwork unless you use that cable but you should be able to stream music via Bluetooth.  It may be that became a normal build component but it's worth asking about both of those codes.

Richard

[535dboy]

[quote="X5Sport"]
Pretty good if that's the 40d?  It has got the full nav.

Can't see 6NF or 6NR?  You have 6FL which will give you a USB socket in the centre console.  You won't get music artwork unless you use that cable but you should be able to stream music via Bluetooth.  It may be that became a normal build component but it's worth asking about both of those codes.

Richard
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Thought both said media pack