Iphone and Wifi abroad

kena · Post by **kena** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:37 pm

Hi all
If i have Data Roaming turned off on my Iphone 3gs and access the internet only via the wifi on the phone, when i am abroad in Norway. Will i get charged by my phone company ( O2 ) for the amount of time i use the internet or am i correct in thinking that this is free.
I have a very good wireless broadband ( fibre optic ) connection in my flat in Norway which is provided as part of my rent. I have a laptop in the flat but sometimes i am just too lazy to get up off the couch

Does that make sense

Post by **sp3ctre** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:49 pm

[quote=""kena""]Hi all
If i have Data Roaming turned off on my Iphone 3gs and access the internet only via the wifi on the phone, when i am abroad in Norway. Will i get charged by my phone company ( O2 ) for the amount of time i use the internet or am i correct in thinking that this is free.
I have a very good wireless broadband ( fibre optic ) connection in my flat in Norway which is provided as part of my rent. I have a laptop in the flat but sometimes i am just too lazy to get up off the couch

Does that make sense

[/quote]

You are correct, if you have data roaming turned off the iphone will not try to connect to data using 3G/GPRS but WI-FI will still work. I have done it in USA / South Africa without any problem at all.

kena · Post by **kena** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:18 pm

Cheers sp3ctre ( Jim )
I just wasn't 100% sure

jeegnesh · Post by **jeegnesh** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:32 pm

Yeap no extra charge. Can't remember but iPhone 4 has another switch under settings -- network either called mobile data or cellular data turn that off and all data via provider is cut off.

Turks · Post by **Turks** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:39 am

I was wondering about this too as there have recently in the press and on the news been articles / reports of people getting HUGE bills for data even though they had turned data roaming off.

Turks.

kena · Post by **kena** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:30 am

[quote=""jeegnesh""]Yeap no extra charge. Can't remember but iPhone 4 has another switch under settings -- network either called mobile data or cellular data turn that off and all data via provider is cut off.[/quote]

Reason i asked is I recently upgraded my OS to Ios4 via itunes and once the upgrade was complete it turned data roaming on automatically and added the cellular data switch into the menu , it wasn't there before the upgrade, and this was also turned on. The next day i received a text from O2 stating i had used over Â£30 of data even though i hadn't been on the internet. The phone must have been connecting automatically. I called O2 and complained and give them credit they waved this charge at this time. I now have everything turned off.

jeegnesh · Post by **jeegnesh** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:00 am

If you want to be ultra safe delete the mobile/cellular data settings and if you sync do not accept carrier updates if you do delete the settings again:

When you want it back there a reset network settings at the bottom of the same page.

Post by **sp3ctre** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:27 am

[quote=""Turks""]I was wondering about this too as there have recently in the press and on the news been articles / reports of people getting HUGE bills for data even though they had turned data roaming off.

Turks.[/quote]

There have, yes, but I really don't believe they had it turned off. Likely, as was suggested above, they received (and accepted) a carrier update or OS update to their phone and got stung that way.

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:57 am

Mainland Europe is way ahead of us in that respect.

First of all, there are NO roaming charges anywhere in Europe for a European phone (i.e. the cost to make a call is the same in any country, the cost of receiving a call is zero).

Secondly, I read yesterday whilst in NL that there is now a data roaming cap of 50 Euro a month as well, so no matter what you do you will never get a bill greater then 50 Euro.

I will have to investigate getting a Dutch SIM as the UK was part of the Vodaphone European limit where you will not get charged more then the standard Dutch tarifs.

Turks · Post by **Turks** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:59 am

I currently have Cellular Data switched on and Data Roaming switched off. I have decided as a test to reset my Usage Counters and i'll check again tomorrow if they change (they shouldn't hopefully). I am in Kazakhstan at the moment and I think Data is about Â£6/MB - Gulp!

I'll let you know tomorrow what the score is!

Turks.

kena · Post by **kena** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:23 am

[quote=""Turks""]I currently have Cellular Data switched on and Data Roaming switched off. I have decided as a test to reset my Usage Counters and i'll check again tomorrow if they change (they shouldn't hopefully). I am in Kazakhstan at the moment and I think Data is about Â£6/MB - Gulp!

I'll let you know tomorrow what the score is!

Turks.[/quote]

I think thats what i had done on mine. I never used the ineternet or went online with the phone and in the space of less than 24 hours i had used just over Â£30 in data charges. I think the phone must go online in the background

so to speak without the user knowing thus unexpected high bills. Why the phone does this i don't know.

Turks... I would keep a close eye on it

Turks · Post by **Turks** » Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:40 pm

Just had a quick look... 112kb Received.

I had a voicemail and thats all I can think has caused it!

Experiment continues.

Turks.

kena · Post by **kena** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:04 am

Any update Turks.
Your a braver man than me LOL.....

to Turks

jeegnesh · Post by **jeegnesh** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:42 am

[quote=""pvr""]Mainland Europe is way ahead of us in that respect.

First of all, there are NO roaming charges anywhere in Europe for a European phone (i.e. the cost to make a call is the same in any country, the cost of receiving a call is zero).

Secondly, I read yesterday whilst in NL that there is now a data roaming cap of 50 Euro a month as well, so no matter what you do you will never get a bill greater then 50 Euro.

I will have to investigate getting a Dutch SIM as the UK was part of the Vodaphone European limit where you will not get charged more then the standard Dutch tarifs.[/quote]
The 50 Euro cap is definetly true for vodafone, just been out there in a few countries and I got the text for the cap, however you just sent a reply and it allows you to exceed the cap if you wish too. Don't know about other networks.

Turks · Post by **Turks** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:32 am

[quote=""kena""]Any update Turks.
Your a braver man than me LOL.....

to Turks[/quote]

Nothing more on the usage almost a day later... but then my phone hasn't seen any action either, no voicemails or picture messages from the missus!

I'll leave it on for another day I think!

Turks.

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