Oil consumption

[briankerrys47]

[quote="Smeeagain"]
Normal is 1l/8-10.000miles for this engine. that's the end off it.
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Thats your opinion, that's the end of it.

Smee
[/quote]Correct ,I did a oil change once car never driven checked oil level none in!!!! found I had not put the plug back. )fortunately driveway was gravel.

[CondorX5]

[quote="kkx5"]
It's time to come down on planet earth...did they tell you about vvt isues? lifters issues? oil pump valves dropping in oil pan? gearbox, transfer box, diff lifetime oil? valve seals? water pipe leaking? No, why?
Its bmw. that's what they do...to make you believe you driving out off this world car,  to make you believe 1l/600miles is normal in normal driving conditions...are we in Germany or Uk? Bad roads, slow motorways, speed cameras...are there any other then normal driving conditions? As a mechanic who did few n62,n46,n42 engines:
Normal is 1l/8-10.000miles for this engine. that's the end off it. If all off you don't believe it, it's  time to come down on earth...Thank you
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So the world's leading motor manufacturers are all entirely wrong and you are right?  I don't think so!  You are entitled to your opinion, however much of an expert you claim to be, and everyone else is entitled to theirs. No need to belittle everyone else - anyone would think there was a male version of PMT doing the rounds, perhaps its Oil MT!!  LOL [emoji15]

[kkx5]

I never said its my opinion. I was very clear.  Its fact. You going to check your tyres,  tyreman is telling you: your tyres are gone. Its fact,  not opinion.  Your engine is burning oil,  its fact,  not  an opinion.

[fenj66]

im only commenting on the original first post in this thread......., my  car goes from max on dipstick to min after about 7000 miles, about a litre returns it max. im quite happy that this is normal usage.

[Smeeagain]

[quote="CondorX5"]

[quote="kkx5"]
It's time to come down on planet earth...did they tell you about vvt isues? lifters issues? oil pump valves dropping in oil pan? gearbox, transfer box, diff lifetime oil? valve seals? water pipe leaking? No, why?
Its bmw. that's what they do...to make you believe you driving out off this world car,  to make you believe 1l/600miles is normal in normal driving conditions...are we in Germany or Uk? Bad roads, slow motorways, speed cameras...are there any other then normal driving conditions? As a mechanic who did few n62,n46,n42 engines:
Normal is 1l/8-10.000miles for this engine. that's the end off it. If all off you don't believe it, it's  time to come down on earth...Thank you
[/quote]

So the world's leading motor manufacturers are all entirely wrong and you are right?  I don't think so!  You are entitled to your opinion, however much of an expert you claim to be, and everyone else is entitled to theirs. No need to belittle everyone else - anyone would think there was a male version of PMT doing the rounds, perhaps its Oil MT!!  LOL [emoji15]
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+1

[Smeeagain]

[quote="kkx5"]
I never said its my opinion. I was very clear.  Its fact. You going to check your tyres,  tyreman is telling you: your tyres are gone. Its fact,  not opinion.  Your engine is burning oil,  its fact,  not  an opinion.
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If others experience different consumption figures then your statement is if not opinion, then certainly not fact. Either that or we're all running round with knackered cars. Oh hang on you've already said that we've got knackered seals. All of us who disagree with you it would appear.

The facts would appear to be wide and varied. and that was point earlier - statistically the sample size is not large enough to determine the distribution curve and there will always be data that skews the figures for whatever reason. The 'facts lie within the mean of the bell curve.

Put it this way. BMW will say one thing. You may say another and I may say something else. But in fact a capability study has to be carried out to determine the actual performance specification. NoW I have no idea if BMW did or do that, but we have in essence, to a much lesser degree carried out the capability study (perhaps not quite to the level of calculating CpK values) but nevertheless, as I say, based on the sample size here, your 'facts' are in the minority.

That doesn't make them wrong but it certainly does make them inconclusive.

Chill.

Smee

[CondorX5]

[quote="kkx5"]
I never said its my opinion. I was very clear.  Its fact. You going to check your tyres,  tyreman is telling you: your tyres are gone. Its fact,  not opinion.  Your engine is burning oil,  its fact,  not  an opinion.
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No its not a "fact", just as Smee pointed out - its your experience of your own situation, others have different experiences - you are not the final arbiter!  Its just an opinion until proven to be fact!

As for "tyreman", I would tell him he is spouting a load of cobblers, I have my own tread depth gauge and decide for MYSELF when in MY OPINION it is the right time to change tyres! i don't let "tyreman" tell me they are "gone" - that's how much of the gullible British motoring public are misled by the national chains like Kwikfit and F1 etc etc into replacing items wholly unnecessarily.

[kkx5]

Indeed,  bmw did fantastic job in UK,  10L/6000miles and you still happy about it,  still trying to tell me and others this is NORMAL. Keep believing its normal,  just watch them Little oil dots on the back screen...

[X5LAW]

Does an lpg petrol use more or less oil than a petrol only car?

Just wondering as I read that lpg can result in less wear on the bores than unleaded petrol... :blink:

[greg1980]

You seem to know the answer to anything, but I think that you are not always right. I used own ALPINA b10 3.3 and it was going through the oil 1l every 1000miles. If you search the internet that is normal even for the brand new car.. If you want me to I will send you and official letter from ALPINA. This is classed as a performance car. This is one of the reasons why I sold it.

[X5LAW]

I had an e46 320 ci convertible which I sold in part because the oil consumption troubled me. Wish I'd done more homework and figured it was ok. That was a good car at the time for me. Since then I've topped up my dad's e46 4 banger which only does 5000 miles a year. Guess it's ok too?

I'm not going to worry about my e53 other than to ask what is the best treatment for blocked breathers that result in the odd cloud when you gun it hard?

[kkx5]

[quote="greg1980"]
You seem to know the answer to anything, but I think that you are not always right. I used own ALPINA b10 3.3 and it was going through the oil 1l every 1000miles. If you search the internet that is normal even for the brand new car.. If you want me to I will send you and official letter from ALPINA. This is classed as a performance car. This is one of the reasons why I sold it.
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Of course i'm not always right but on this subject, i'm 100% sure i'm right. >:( Alpina is performance company so is the engine and is normal (1L/1000) as for all "M" cars but n62 is not performance engine...bmw 120i,318i is not performance car nor is engine yet half of it you will find in v8 n62. In fact 2xn42 is n62. Non of them are performance engines...

[Denis O]

Do you ever have to change the oil on a 4.8 then. I doubt it, based on the fact that you are putting in more than the normal maximum amount every 6000 miles.

That's 3 oil changes within the 5 green lights. Jesus that's a lot of oil. At least you're not having to pay dealer rates to have it changed though as it does it itself.

[Smeeagain]

[quote="kkx5"]
[quote="greg1980"]
You seem to know the answer to anything, but I think that you are not always right. I used own ALPINA b10 3.3 and it was going through the oil 1l every 1000miles. If you search the internet that is normal even for the brand new car.. If you want me to I will send you and official letter from ALPINA. This is classed as a performance car. This is one of the reasons why I sold it.
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Of course i'm not always right but on this subject, i'm 100% sure i'm right. >:( Alpina is performance company so is the engine and is normal (1L/1000) as for all "M" cars but n62 is not performance engine...bmw 120i,318i is not performance car nor is engine yet half of it you will find in v8 n62. In fact 2xn42 is n62. Non of them are performance engines...
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There is a difference between being sure that you are right and actually being right. Folk used to be 100% sure that they were right that the earth was flat.
Nuff said.

[CondorX5]

[quote="kkx5"]
[quote="greg1980"]
You seem to know the answer to anything, but I think that you are not always right. I used own ALPINA b10 3.3 and it was going through the oil 1l every 1000miles. If you search the internet that is normal even for the brand new car.. If you want me to I will send you and official letter from ALPINA. This is classed as a performance car. This is one of the reasons why I sold it.
[/quote]

Of course i'm not always right but on this subject, i'm 100% sure i'm right. >:( Alpina is performance company so is the engine and is normal (1L/1000) as for all "M" cars but n62 is not performance engine...bmw 120i,318i is not performance car nor is engine yet half of it you will find in v8 n62. In fact 2xn42 is n62. Non of them are performance engines...
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Right, so according to Mr. K I A,  it seems his car is Powered by Fairydust. Or Magic.  But definitely never uses oil!

Those of us plebs with cars which use oil to one degree or another are driving a heap of scrapyard, bust junk with knackered everything. And they definitely don't have performance engines (Mr K I A only spouts facts, remember! )

In fact, it seems my 4.8is has two 3-series, non-performance engines cobbled together making up the scrapheap I dare to crawl around in.

And to top it all, Tyreman (Mr K I A's Best Friend?) says my tyres are GONE!!

So not only do I have a scrapper of a 4.8is with its oil-using, knackered, cobbled-together remants of a NON--PERFORMANCE engine, but it doesn't have tyres apparently, as they are GONE! 

Oh dear [emoji27]

I tried really hard to remind myself of this REALITY and the FACTS provided by Mr K I A as my old knackered scrapper roared down the motorways today.......

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LOL.  This thread really has become ridiculous. In fact, Mr. KIA could just take over the forum and provide one-liner FACTS -no need for the ignorant, great unwashed of the rest of us to dare to contribute an OPINION when the purveyor of FACT is available!