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All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by moar » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:35 pm

Sorry but there are plenty of people who purchase their vehicles and maintain it to a very high standard.

The length of ownership is irrelevant to the upkeep of the vehicles maintenance.

If he wanted to go for a road trip then that is perfectly fine, there is no debating that.

But my only problem is with people with 6hp26 transmissions thinking their best course of action is to drive it all the way to Dortmund.

On a side note, did ZF not offer a rebuilt valve body? That's a serviceable item and in theory should have been replaced.

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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by Imy » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:49 pm

I dont think the length of ownership is irrelevant to the upkeep or the vehicles maintenance. Its down to personal choice, and Raj's choice was to take his to Dortmund. It may not be yours and its not mine but that doesnt mean he was wrong to do it. He didnt once say that this was the only option for ALL X's but it was the option he took on his X.

Also I do not believe anyone on here thinks that just because Raj took his 6hp26 to Dortmund that this is also their bes course of action, so your problem as stated is irrelevant. So you can breath easy.

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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by Raj » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:05 pm

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As long as you're happy.

But I think it is wrong to push people to think that the level and quality of the workmanship would be substandard compared to ZF.

ZF do not manufacture pans, it is outsourced just like their fluid.

So "pattern" German parts are pefectly acceptable. And to be honest, with the 6hp26, I would rather pay extra and purchase the metal sump pan and the normal filter that can be swapped. A common and recommended modification to do.

You can purchase the mod here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-OE ... 51b62b1c32

I don't like the idea of a plastic sump and it is common for them to leak. So it's worth paying extra to upgrade to metal.

For the fluid Febi and Meyle do perfectly fine fluid for the 6hp26. It is the correct golden colour and I wouldn't be surprised if it is the exact same stuff. Only a handful of companies would manufacture this fluid for ZF.

There is nothing wrong with purchasing the millers version either which is derived from Dexron oil but conforms to the ZF specification. I have had perfectly good success with this fluid.

Transmissions are very basic things and servicing them is even more basic. There is nothing complicated about the job. It can easily be performed in 60-90 minutes for a sump drop whilst taking care to torque up everything.

For future readers, you can perform this job with in the UK with no problem at all to the same standard as the manufacturer.
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I'm not pushing anyone anywhere. You are free to do what you want, how you want and to whatever you want. It's your call. I simply posted up what I decided on doing.

You seem to be the one pushing.
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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by moar » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:24 pm

"With all the usual uncertainty of changing the fluid now is hit 120k miles I've now got no choice."

Raj what exactly do you think you had no choice in?

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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by jaynana » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:54 pm

Dude, this is a 'forum' plus a 'set of friends', many who have met f2f as well. We also have new members all the time who nicely fit in, who are warmly welcome.

And then there are the odd ones, THAT is what we have 'no choice' about!

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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by jaynana » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:00 pm

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[quote="moar"]
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Agreed.....not a great way to start your membership.  Unless of course this is all about advertising..... ???
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I don't lead anyone to any particular place, so no, my post is not leading anyone for advertising.
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Unfortunately we have been suffering from a spate of spamming folks who have been doing just that......if it wasn't your intention then I apologise.  Given this was your first post and no one on here knows you, you can understand a bit of resistance perhaps....

Raj (as you will no doubt discover) takes great delight in his car and a run to ZF was just something he wanted to do.  There may well be cheaper routes but that wasn't his choice or preference.

Secretly he might have wanted a blast in the Autobahn without having to dodge all the blasted speed Scameras.... :)) >:D

Anyway... :hi:

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On the subject of the autobahn, what's the top speed of the e53 3.0d?
Is it 130mph? :)
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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by moar » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:56 pm

[quote="jaynana"]
Dude, this is a 'forum' plus a 'set of friends', many who have met f2f as well. We also have new members all the time who nicely fit in, who are warmly welcome.

And then there are the odd ones, THAT is what we have 'no choice' about!

:)
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That's not very nice  :(

I would have thought that a BMW master technician covering dealerships oop North would have been a valuable asset to the forums  :( :(

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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by Raj » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:01 pm

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"With all the usual uncertainty of changing the fluid now is hit 120k miles I've now got no choice."

Raj what exactly do you think you had no choice in?
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Getting the oil service done....

Very debatable when getting on mileage wise whether it's a good or bad thing in getting the gearbox lol service done.
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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by Raj » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:04 pm

[quote="jaynana"]

On the subject of the autobahn, what's the top speed of the e53 3.0d?
Is it 130mph? :)
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Think you'd get slightly more than that but not much more.
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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by Raj » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:10 pm

[quote="moar"]
[quote="jaynana"]
Dude, this is a 'forum' plus a 'set of friends', many who have met f2f as well. We also have new members all the time who nicely fit in, who are warmly welcome.

And then there are the odd ones, THAT is what we have 'no choice' about!

:)
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That's not very nice  :(

I would have thought that a BMW master technician covering dealerships oop North would have been a valuable asset to the forums  :( :(
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I wouldn't say you're not welcome but you have been a bit over opinionated without really reading properly my thread.

You could have simply said you felt that I had perhaps paid too much but fair play if I'm happy with that.

Instead you've just kept saying I've been ripped off and misleading others to over paying for services that can be had far cheaper.

This all from someone who makes a good living working for main dealers that are VERY happy to rip people off many times over for services that should be far cheaper. So do you tell every customer that walks through the doors at the dealerships they are being ripped off and should go somewhere else?
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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by Raj » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:14 pm

And to prove my point:

Dealer rates hit all time high
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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by moar » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:33 pm

[quote="Raj"]
[quote="moar"]
[quote="jaynana"]
Dude, this is a 'forum' plus a 'set of friends', many who have met f2f as well. We also have new members all the time who nicely fit in, who are warmly welcome.

And then there are the odd ones, THAT is what we have 'no choice' about!

:)
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That's not very nice  :(

I would have thought that a BMW master technician covering dealerships oop North would have been a valuable asset to the forums  :( :(
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This all from someone who makes a good living working for main dealers that are VERY happy to rip people off many times over for services that should be far cheaper. So do you tell every customer that walks through the doors at the dealerships they are being ripped off and should go somewhere else?
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Cough cough, my job is to cover dealerships who aren't able to repair their BMW due to running out of ideas etc.

Usually the cars have done the rounds at independents and the owners has come to us as a last resort. They will pay a premium to have their car looked at.

I think I deserve to be paid a premium for my knowledge and expertise in repairing rare faults seen in BMWs. Don't you?

Do you also understand the very basics of overheads?

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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by Jayx5 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:48 pm

My best mate used to work at a bmw indy and spent a lot of time putting cars right that had been cocked up by bmw mechanics.Paying a premium to bmw don't always pay either!
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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by moar » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:54 pm

Shock horror, people make mistakes  :P

You do realise I don't fix cars that other people have cocked up. I fix cars that have problems and no one can work out why...

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Re: All prepped for a run to Dortmund.

Post by Horizon » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:03 pm

[quote="moar"]
Shock horror, people make mistakes  :P

You do realise I don't fix cars that other people have cocked up. I fix cars that have problems and no one can work out why...
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I hope your better at fixing cars than you are at making friends and influencing people !!!!!!
I thought it was just the BMW salesmen that were arrogant , self important , D**kheads.
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